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Impr3ssiv3

Impr3ssiv3

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alright that works too, i wont really be playing any PC games as I have a PS3, most i'd do is 3d modeling. Have they came out with ways of using the GPU for video rendering?
 
bomberboysk

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Impr3ssiv3 said:
I would like to get back into Photoshop and Cinema4d but the main reason for the computer would be a media server for my fraternity house. Would Phenom be good this this too? Like transcoding HD files over a network? Are the i* series meant for gaming?
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Hsv_Man said:
Not only for gaming it is great for using photoshop, Video editing, HD video editing, CAD, encoding, encrypting really anything that is cpu intensive that takes a long time on other processors such as a dual core can be done in atleast half the time on a quad core i7 especially with hyperthreading. :good:
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Impr3ssiv3 said:
so whats the advantages of of Phenom over an i7/i5?
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Impr3ssiv3 said:
updated it

and is the price of i* worth the advantages of it?
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joh06937 said:
for what you are doing, it would probably be worth going the intel route. you can still get nice builds for not too much more money though.

what gpu are you looking to get? like bomber said, ati will let you do 3 monitors off of a single card while nvidia requires 2.
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The Phenom II X6 is faster in any applications that use multiple threads, transcoding files is an example of that, as is rendering, any type of photoshop/image editing work, etc. Thats the advantage that six physical cores have, while the i7's only have four physical cores.For the OP's usage, the Phenom II X6 is the better option, not only is it slightly faster, but its quite a bit cheaper. The i7's really shine under applications that arent heavily multithreaded, such as games.

Impr3ssiv3 said:
i was looking at the nvidia 465 as it has exaclty what i need unless i want to upgrade to 4 monitors which prob wont happen
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Only supports two displays....the hdmi output can only be used if you aren't using one of the DVI ports, and vice versa.
joh06937 said:
stick with the 460. same performance as the 465 but it uses less power and runs cooler.
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Again, OP isnt gaming, better off with a 5770 if he plans on driving three displays(2 digital(DVI)+one analog via a displayport->VGA adapter, all nvidia cards are limited to a maximum of two displays per card...
Impr3ssiv3 said:
alright that works too, i wont really be playing any PC games as I have a PS3, most i'd do is 3d modeling. Have they came out with ways of using the GPU for video rendering?
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At this point in time, there is no OpenCL or CUDA renderer out there as far as i know, there are talks of OpenCL accelerated rendering programs in the future.
Impr3ssiv3 said:
what about this combo deal?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.467864

could sell the drive and make it even cheaper, or is this not good deal?
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GTS 250 is only gonna drive two displays, 7200.11 drives have very high failure rates, and your not really saving that much, plus it still doesn't include a power supply.
 
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Impr3ssiv3

Impr3ssiv3

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bomberboysk said:
That is the point i was making, you have a 750W unit that is capable of pushing 750W, yet you will be limiting future output with a UPS. Personally, i don't run a UPS as IMO they cause more problems than they solve, especially people running underpowered ones. Also, you seem to be forgetting that you have to factor in the efficiency of the power supply, at an average of 80% efficiency for many units, your talking only 360W of actual output available to the components before you are overloading your UPS.

Also....one thing i did notice is your doing photoshop, and cinema 4, both are heavily multithreaded applications. The Phenom II X6 is faster than the Core i7 920 in heavily multithreaded applications, and is significantly cheaper($100 less CPU wise, mobo wise another $50-100 cheaper, memory ~$40 cheaper)

Now, as far as three outputs....you have two options. Either 1) you get a radeon 5XXX card and a displayport to VGA adapter, or you need to get two gpu's.

PSU+GPU: Use promo code XFXPOWER for an additional $19.50 off, currently one of the best 750W units you can buy, spectacular results in transient overshoot tests, ripple suppression is superb, efficiency is 80PLUS Silver, and regulation is extremely tight
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.471307

Mobo+CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.470560

Memory:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226072

That will put you at $679.45 after coupon codes, before shipping or rebates.

As far as UPS, if you feel you really need one, i would go with this unit, as to not need to replace it in the future if you ever actually utilize the full capacity of that power supply unit:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842102070
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so far i'm looking at this build. Man Windows is gonna hate me, AMD -> Intel, Nvidia -> ATI, should be fun reinstalling everything, might be time for a fresh install

and with that 5770 it can run the HDMI and 2 DVI ports? easily?
 
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bomberboysk

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Impr3ssiv3 said:
so far i'm looking at this build. Man Windows is gonna hate me, AMD -> Intel, Nvidia -> ATI, should be fun reinstalling everything, might be time for a fresh install

and with that 5770 it can run the HDMI and 2 DVI ports? easily?
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5770 will only be able to do 2 DVI + VGA, as all modern GPUs only have two RAMDACs onboard. VGA is analog, and does not require a ramdac, you would need one of these displayport->vga adapters:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10428&cs_id=1042801&p_id=5135&seq=1&format=2

Unless of course, one of your displays has displayport, in which case you could do 2x DVI + one displayport.
 
Impr3ssiv3

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bomberboysk said:
5770 will only be able to do 2 DVI + VGA, as all modern GPUs only have two RAMDACs onboard. VGA is analog, and does not require a ramdac, you would need one of these displayport->vga adapters:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10428&cs_id=1042801&p_id=5135&seq=1&format=2

Unless of course, one of your displays has displayport, in which case you could do 2x DVI + one displayport.
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i was reading up on triple monitors on eyefinity and it appears to be finnicky, how the dp>vga adapter has to be powered or it won't work

and how it doesnt like different resolutions

read this article

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/radeon-hd-5450,review-31803-3.html
 
bomberboysk

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Impr3ssiv3

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i also found this

http://lanoc.org/review/hardware/video-cards/4200-sapphire-hd5770-flex

it doesn't need the DP to be used.

now what about the resolution part? is that only with eyefinity? I use ultramon for my taskbar and pretty much use each monitor on its own. My 1440X900 and 1280X1024 are what i use for day to day computing and my HD tv 1920 X1080p i use for parties pretty much. I watch movies on it time to time but most i stream to my PS3. Will Windows 7 make this happen?
 
bomberboysk

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Impr3ssiv3 said:
i also found this

http://lanoc.org/review/hardware/video-cards/4200-sapphire-hd5770-flex

it doesn't need the DP to be used.

now what about the resolution part? is that only with eyefinity? I use ultramon for my taskbar and pretty much use each monitor on its own. My 1440X900 and 1280X1024 are what i use for day to day computing and my HD tv 1920 X1080p i use for parties pretty much. I watch movies on it time to time but most i stream to my PS3. Will Windows 7 make this happen?
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Not sure what you're saying, running three displays with different res's you probably wouldnt be using eyefinity, you would just be using three displays using the standard windows multi display mode i would imagine.
 
Impr3ssiv3

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bomberboysk said:
Not sure what you're saying, running three displays with different res's you probably wouldnt be using eyefinity, you would just be using three displays using the standard windows multi display mode i would imagine.
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yeah, figured that out, well I think i got everything figured out, is that mushkin ram reliable stuff? i've always gone with names like Corsair or Geil or crucial
 
bomberboysk

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Impr3ssiv3 said:
yeah, figured that out, well I think i got everything figured out, is that mushkin ram reliable stuff? i've always gone with names like Corsair or Geil or crucial
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Mushkin is pretty much the best name in the business when it comes to high end memory, GeIL is technically low end stuff, and crucial is generally mid to lower end stuff as well, while mushkin caters specifically to the enthusiast/overclocking market.
 
bomberboysk

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cooler master V6 is great value for money at 49.99, better than the v8 and cheaper. Otherwise, the xigmatek s1283 is great value for money as well.
 
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