Backing up CD's is now illegal

Super_Nova said:
They're way off. The reason why people aren't buying music isn't because of downloads. IF THE MUSIC IS WORTH BUYING PEOPLE WILL BUY IT!!!! The reason why people don't buy music is because we can hear it for free on the radio 50 times a day for 6 months until we are sick of it. Why the heck would we want to pay to subject ourselves to a song we know we're going to hear for free every time we turn on the radio? Not only that but we've heard it for free on the radio, we can hear it suck for free! so no, we aren't going to pay for it. There hasn't been any music worth buying for at least 10 to 20 years anyways. Also, the RIAA sucks.
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..hmmm, trying to remember the last time I listened to the radio.. oh yeah, its been at least five years. I think MOST of the music on the radio is crap to begin with.

Parents of this generation, for the most part, has not taught their kids to work for things. Kids want, want, want and do not know how to give in return. This generation also wants instant gratification and free and instant downloading of music is exactly what they want!

The mentality is that if you can get if NOW and FOR FREE... why the hell would you want to WORK for the money to BUY the music? I think it is horrible. I take pride in working and saving up to purchase music CD's.
 
No matter how hard riaa try to stop illegal music activity its just not gonna stop. They might as well face the fact that the more restrictions they create, the more creative ppl are gonna get to get around the restrictions.
 
liuliuboy said:
No matter how hard riaa try to stop illegal music activity its just not gonna stop. They might as well face the fact that the more restrictions they create, the more creative ppl are gonna get to get around the restrictions.
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You could say that about a lot of laws. Driving drunk.. robbing a bank.. stealing a car... the list goes on and on. Unlike these unlawful activities, many people do not think stealing music is wrong. THAT is the real problem.
 
dragon2309 said:
that was always illegal encore, lol...
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woops

monkeysims said:
musics not even about music anymore, damn riaa
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ur telling me
monkeysims said:
lets start an anti-riaa group
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already plenty of those...

liuliuboy said:
No matter how hard riaa try to stop illegal music activity its just not gonna stop. They might as well face the fact that the more restrictions they create, the more creative ppl are gonna get to get around the restrictions.
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tru, that

SFR said:
You could say that about a lot of laws. Driving drunk.. robbing a bank.. stealing a car... the list goes on and on. Unlike these unlawful activities, many people do not think stealing music is wrong. THAT is the real problem.
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no, bcuz, drunk driving, robbing a bank, stealing a car and the list the goes on hurts someone (for example, i beleive passsing the law that guns are illeagle is stupid... bcuz the good respectable people that wont kill anyone that owns guns will not have guns bcuz they will obey the law, and bad ppl who will kill someone who doesn't care about the law will have guns... it is just an issue of if by passing the law, the bad guys have guns while good guys don't...)
... "illeagle music activity" doesnt HARM anyone. sure u can argue the artists wont be making money but they will always be making money. It i just a difference beetween 20 million dollars and $5 million dollars... and a VERY high percentage of that is not HARDworking... the actual making a CD isn't tedious, it is like %90 marketting... so IMO they shouldn't be making 20 million cus of a big marketting stunt...:rolleyes:


SFR said:
many people do not think stealing music is wrong. THAT is the real problem.
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hmm... well i beleive it is wrong charging us $15 for a CD that is a mere marketting stunt... NOT hard earned money... sure many artists work hard, and i buy from the hard working artists i like... not all the musicians i like work hard, but there are many that do, andi only buy a $15 CD if i beleive the artist really put their life into that...
 
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regardless of what laws come into place like liuliuboy said ppl are gunna get round it! i think its wrong to steal music but i beleive something drastic would have to step into play to stop it. but i have no idea what that could be. crazy innit!!!
 
Encore4More said:
woops


ur telling me


already plenty of those...


tru, that


no, bcuz, drunk driving, robbing a bank, stealing a car and the list the goes on hurts someone (for example, i beleive passsing the law that guns are illeagle is stupid... bcuz the good respectable people that wont kill anyone that owns guns will not have guns bcuz they will obey the law, and bad ppl who will kill someone who doesn't care about the law will have guns... it is just an issue of if by passing the law, the bad guys have guns while good guys don't...)
... "illeagle music activity" doesnt HARM anyone. sure u can argue the artists wont be making money but they will always be making money. It i just a difference beetween 20 million dollars and $5 million dollars... and a VERY high percentage of that is not HARDworking... the actual making a CD isn't tedious, it is like %90 marketting... so IMO they shouldn't be making 20 million cus of a big marketting stunt...:rolleyes:


hmm... well i beleive it is wrong charging us $15 for a CD that is a mere marketting stunt... NOT hard earned money... sure many artists work hard, and i buy from the hard working artists i like... not all the musicians i like work hard, but there are many that do, andi only buy a $15 CD if i beleive the artist really put their life into that...
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I'm sorry but that is the biggest bunch of crap i have ever read. To pick your post apart:

Encore4More said:
robbing a bank, stealing a car and the list the goes on hurts someone
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It is still theft no matter how you suger coat it...the more people download music illegally the more the music industry has to bump up there prices.

Encore4More said:
for example, i beleive passsing the law that guns are illeagle is stupid... bcuz the good respectable people that wont kill anyone that owns guns will not have guns bcuz they will obey the law, and bad ppl who will kill someone who doesn't care about the law will have guns... it is just an issue of if by passing the law, the bad guys have guns while good guys don't...)
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I dont see the relevence in that for a thread on backing up cd's. I'd love to go into detail but id sway way of topic, and possibly start a flame war.

Encore4More said:
"hmm... well i beleive it is wrong charging us $15 for a CD that is a mere marketting stunt... NOT hard earned money... sure many artists work hard, and i buy from the hard working artists i like..."
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Who are you to say who works hard and who doesnt? $15 isnt alot for a CD...maybe if you "worked hard enough" you wouldnt see it quite the same way.
 
how can that b........in my place one cd you buy its not worth it because its too expensive.....S**T
 
all teh money the RIAA spends on stopping illeagle downloading is a waste cus ppl keep doing it and they prolly waste more on it then they gain... IMO all these artists are making way more than they should... by something called MARKETING...
 
Encore4More said:
all teh money the RIAA spends on stopping illeagle downloading is a waste cus ppl keep doing it and they prolly waste more on it then they gain... IMO all these artists are making way more than they should... by something called MARKETING...
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Encore4More, you are still skirting around the REAL issue. The fact is, stealing music is still stealing. As atomic said, no matter how you sugarcoat it, stealing is stealing.

You can blame the Recording Industry Association of America as much as you want, but they are trying to hold people accountable who are not obeying the law. If you want to blame someone, blame the elected law makers.

Supporting the notion that "these artists are making way more that they should" is such a horrible way to live your life. The reason I say this is because it sets up this idea in your mind that people who make more than you do not deserve it. Sports Athletes, make too much... Music artists, make too much. Software Developers, make too much... where does it end?

Our society dictates how much a house will cost. Society dictates how much a gallon of milk will cost and society dictates how much they will pay for a CD. The fact that people steal the music because they do not want to pay for the CD is poor justification for lowering prices of CD's.

If you truly did not want to support the oil cartels' control over gasoline prices, you would not steal gasoline, you would find alternative fuel sources and boycott gasoline. If you truly did not want to support the RIAA and the music industry, you should not steal from them. Instead, you should not listen to their music.
 
SFR said:


Encore4More, you are still skirting around the REAL issue. The fact is, stealing music is still stealing. As atomic said, no matter how you sugarcoat it, stealing is stealing.

You can blame the Recording Industry Association of America as much as you want, but they are trying to hold people accountable who are not obeying the law. If you want to blame someone, blame the elected law makers.

Supporting the notion that "these artists are making way more that they should" is such a horrible way to live your life. The reason I say this is because it sets up this idea in your mind that people who make more than you do not deserve it. Sports Athletes, make too much... Music artists, make too much. Software Developers, make too much... where does it end?

Our society dictates how much a house will cost. Society dictates how much a gallon of milk will cost and society dictates how much they will pay for a CD. The fact that people steal the music because they do not want to pay for the CD is poor justification for lowering prices of CD's.

If you truly did not want to support the oil cartels' control over gasoline prices, you would not steal gasoline, you would find alternative fuel sources and boycott gasoline. If you truly did not want to support the RIAA and the music industry, you should not steal from them. Instead, you should not listen to their music.
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hmm... people in china are making $1 a week, mebbe even a month... that is to low... so instead of stealing food, they should just boycott working completely...

and for those who don't beleive that music is food for the soul, lets say a certain product is manufactured that only $10 worth goes into it... then they sell it for $1000...JUST because people WANT IT BAD. is this sick? should we have to put up with that? no. we want it, it costs $10 to manufactur and we would be more than willing to pay $50 for it, but all the people that manufacture it ask $1000... that is sick...




stopping illeagal uploading music is never going to happen...
you can say "well that is because people say that^^^" that argument only says WHY stopping illeagal uploading music is never going to happen

that argument doesn't say the solution, it just says the reasoning

stopping illeagal uploading music is never going to happen

convincing the world not to say that is like convincing people not to cause gape blocks (for those who don't know, that means traffic jams that are caused by people slowing down to stare at an accedent)


SFR said:
The reason I say this is because it sets up this idea in your mind that people who make more than you do not deserve it. Sports Athletes, make too much... Music artists, make too much. Software Developers, make too much... where does it end?
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it ends at people that don't make to much... bill gates... i ask you where would we be without him? sports players... how many people can do that job at such a level of performance... some musical artists i buy because i think they deserve it bcuz they aren't just cheap marketing...
 
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Making backups of CD's has been illegal in Finland for quite a while now, and s_m_w_d, I agree with you it's annoying that tab sites are "illegal". That's why they shut down mxtabs, but now I have Guitar Pro, seems to be legal, still.
 
mrjack said:
Making backups of CD's has been illegal in Finland for quite a while now, and s_m_w_d, I agree with you it's annoying that tab sites are "illegal". That's why they shut down mxtabs, but now I have Guitar Pro, seems to be legal, still.
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mxtabs is back now
 
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