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Novice2000

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I was wondering what kind of computer everyone here would buy if they were to buy a new computer. What are the best brand names of computers out there these days.

I'll start by saying what brand of computer I will never, ever buy again. That's a Dell. I own a Dell and it's a piece of junk. I bought this computer brand new back in 2001 for over $2,500. I'm lucky that I went ahead and got the extended 3 year warranty. I went through 3 hard drives, 3 CD drives, and a monitor in those first 3 years. When I first went ordered this computer on the phone, I was up to over $2,500 when the girl I was speaking to told me it would be an additional $300 for another 256 MB of Ram. So I said I would just stick with the 256 MB that it already had and I would upgrade the memory down the road. One year later, ONLY 1 year later, when I called Dell, they told me that they discontinued that particular memory (rambus) and that it was obsolete. When I called around to computer shops, they all told me that it was obsolete and they didn't carry it, and if I do find it, I'm going to be paying close to $500 for a 256 MB stick. DON'T EVER BUY A DELL!

Well anyway, I want to know what the best computers on the market are right now.
 
For prebuild systems those have seen a large price drop in the years since you ordered the Dell "mare" for the overpriced whatever. HP would have been far better then and certainly offers more at this late date for a prebuilt system. Dell does offer the alternative to Vista when you order trying to drum up business that way.

One thing you will find right away here at CF is that most will simply build their own custom cases and get more out of them. Another item to add is that systems lose some 80% of their original retail in just 3yrs. time. Consider that if you go prebuilt. For 1/2 of what you paid then and even less you can build your own with far more options available even for expansion and upgrades.
 
If I had to say any pre-built PC was better, I would have to say CyberPower, b/c it seems more like a custom built. I have heard that Systemax is pretty good, I prefer Acer, but that's just me.
 
exactly...ive done work with my sister's dell, it blows so bad...i cant even upgrade the video in it, its onboard and it doesnt have an AGP slot....my mom's hp, however, has a pci-e slot and has never had problems with onboard video.
my pc is custom, and blows theirs out of the water.
[i live with my family cause im still a junior in high school :P ]
 
Well I do know that as far as the big companies go, you're right on with your comment on Dell. They went from being the world's leading computer company to much less than that. Currently they own (I believe) about 14% of the market share, with HP leading at about 19%. From what I've read, this is due to their awful customer service, among other mishaps *cough* sony laptop batteries catching fire *cough*.

That being said....BUILD YOUR OWN! You save so many greenbacks, you learn a ton, and its an incredibly rewarding experience.
 
For budget systems, systemax and acer are great pc's. but if you are going to go high end and gaming, you save money by building your own, if budget was unlimited alienware would be the way to go, not just the parts they use, their engineering insures that the full potential of the hardware is met, without overclocking which causes nothing but trouble IMO, it voids warranties and causes impeccable damage to hardware due to heat issues.
 
treddstone said:
Well I do know that as far as the big companies go, you're right on with your comment on Dell. They went from being the world's leading computer company to much less than that. Currently they own (I believe) about 14% of the market share, with HP leading at about 19%. From what I've read, this is due to their awful customer service, among other mishaps *cough* sony laptop batteries catching fire *cough*.

That being said....BUILD YOUR OWN! You save so many greenbacks, you learn a ton, and its an incredibly rewarding experience.
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Dell was never the leading manufacturer. Are you using an IBM compatible machine? SUN Microsystems and a few others blow Dell, HP, IBM, Gateway, Acer, Alenware, and others right out of the water. But those are top systems used by engineers, scientists, software designers, etc.. Building your own on the other hand leaves you with the best options for hardwares available on the consumer market.
 
I don't think the original poster was asking about super computers capable of reaching speeds of 10 GFlops, sometimes even higher, we are talking about personal computers.
 
I remember when Acer was the one computer you DID not buy. I guess I am still prejudiced against them. My first ever system was by Acer back in 96 or so. I had it 2 days and took that piece of crap back. I have never bought an Acer product since, nor will I.

If you are afraid to build one yourself, the next best thing is to go to a local mom and pop computer shop and tell them exactly what you want, do not let them sell you one already built unless it has exactly what you want in it.

Or if you know someone that has built one in the past, ask them to do it for A $50 fee or so.
 
UriA702 said:
I don't think the original poster was asking about super computers capable of reaching speeds of 10 GFlops, sometimes even higher, we are talking about personal computers.
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You already use one pf SUN's products and don't even know it. That would be Java runtime for Windows. And if you ever looked you might find that not all of their systems are Super PCs but average looking desktops. http://www.sun.com/desktop/index.jsp
 
I agree with building your own system. I would buy a CPU and motherboard combination if you choose to go this route so you won't have to deal with bent pins.
 
It is worth building your own system. You can get exactly what you want, and you can also build a nice budget PC. I built my system for around $450-500. It is the best I've ever had
 
A year ago was it worth of building your own pc. Now a days it isn't really. At least not in Belgium. When I first build my pc(I still use it on the moment) it was cheap as hell if you compared it with a pre-built pc. But now... it isn't.

The thing is, you get a OS with a pre-built system. Thats actually what makes them a little bit more expensive. When you go out and build your own pc, you never consider the fact that you'd buy extra software + an OS. That's why it looks much cheaper. But if you reconsider, then you'll see that a custom made pc is not always the best option.

But, if you want my opinon, I think a custom pc still rox. You could do what ever you want with it. If you tried to upgrade something on your pre-build pc your warranty will be gone. Or at some pc's, if you just open the case, the warranty will be gone. That sucks hard if you are a gamer/modder.
What's also good on a custom made pc, you learn a lot. Trust me, that's how I become very smart at hardware. It's also really helpful for in the future.

Owyeah, one more thing. A pre-build pc now a days, offers a lot of great hardware. But like earlier said, the GPU sux bad. So, don't get fooled by: Intel Quad core, 2GB and then (sometimes not even written) geforce 8400 GS.

Zangetsu
 
Pratical experience = yes

cost saving when custom building = depends on selections of hardwares as well as where you buy from and the type of build in question

prebuilt vs custom as far as average user = 256 or 512 maybe 1gb of memory found on prebuilds while you now can throw 2gb and higher when planning out custom case

Unnecessary waste = spending more then actually needed on higher priced hardwares as soon as they appear on the market = exotic builds $500-$1000 for video card to play wow or BF2?(total waste of cash :rolleyes: or something loose upstairs :eek: )
 
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