Bottlenecking reposted properly

lincsman

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Ok, so since I worded the last one totally wrong I thought of a very simple way to put this. In a computer with an AMD FX-6300 processor overclocked to 3.8Ghz, and with 16Gb of 1866 DDR3 RAM, is it worth it to upgrade from a GTX 770 2Gb to a GTX 970? Or would it just be a waste of money and time with that processor? Thanks. The reason why I called the thread bottlenecking because I'm wondering if the processor in this computer would bottleneck a GTX 970.
 
Darren

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Okedokey said:
It would be an upgrade.
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Very insightful.

Yes a 970 is faster than a 770 and you will notice a difference but the 6300 will hold it back in certain instances. Bottlenecking is more of a spectrum than a "yes it bottlenecks" or "no it doesn't bottleneck". My 8320 bottlenecks my 390 at times in certain games.
 
lincsman

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Yes you are right and thank you Darren for an educated thoughtful reply. Like witcher 3 is processor intensive whereas Crysis 3 seems to be very video card intensive
 
Laquer Head

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lincsman said:
Yes you are right and thank you Darren for an educated thoughtful reply. Like witcher 3 is processor intensive whereas Crysis 3 seems to be very video card intensive
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Tell me about it, my CPU struggles a bit.. thank god for 1080 but yeh that game is power hungry
 
spirit

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To be honest with you, yes the 970 is a faster card than the 770 and yes you will notice a difference, but really you should be thinking about moving away from AM3+ and onto AM4 (coming next year) or Intel 1151 instead.

You could go and buy a 970 now and you'd notice a bit of difference, or you could wait and build a new Intel or AM4 system with a newer card like a 1070. The 970 will be a 3 year old card in 2017 - something to think about!
 
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Laquer Head

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spirit said:
To be honest with you, yes the 970 is a faster card than the 770 and yes you will notice a difference, but really you should be thinking about moving away from AM3+ and onto AM4 (coming next year) or Intel 1151 instead.

You could go and buy a 970 now and you'd notice a bit of difference, or you could wait and build a new Intel or AM4 system with a newer card like a 1070. The 970 will be a 3 year old card in 2017 - something to think about!
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He just built a brand new Z170 system and waiting on a gtx 1060.. hes referencing his old system sold to a family member and debating on putting in a 970 for them.
 
spirit

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Laquer Head said:
He just built a brand new Z170 system and waiting on a gtx 1060.. hes referencing his old system sold to a family member and debating on putting in a 970 for them.
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Oh OK, I must've missed that in one of the many threads he made about this (this is why we prefer to keep the discussion in one thread!)

If you can get a GTX 970 cheaply or free then go for it I guess, but don't buy one brand new given that a) it's a 2.5 year old card and has been superseded and b) this AM3+ PC isn't terribly powerful or worth spending a lot of money on - especially if they don't need a GTX 970. If they don't do a lot of gaming or really need to upgrade from the GTX 770, then don't put a GTX 970 in that system for them unless you can get one very very cheaply or you have one to give to them.
 
spirit

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Yeah, @Darren has been throwing his weight around too.. gave me the gears yesterday like you wouldn't believe,,,
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I've closed the other threads relating to this question. Makes sense to just keep it all in one thread to make the discussion easier to follow.
 
lincsman

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Ok thank you spirit as I tried to delete them but couldn't see how. Thanks everyone else, along with Laqure for explaining that I'm talking about my old system. I think I'll just continue with the 770 and I might actually get a 1070 as I want this system to last for years without an upgrade, and I am only doing 1080p but still I don't want to upgrade in a year I'd rather just leave my new system be for a while as I just spent a month and a half researching and building it. Depends on how much money I get and can round up. Also Laqure witcher 3 is very much about processor and my 770 actually runs it almost max. Whereas Titanfall 2 runs multiplayer like a sick dog with everything I have on my 770.
 
Intel_man

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Video cards in the 1060/1070 region of performance typically should last 2-3 years* before you have the urge to get something new. The pattern I went through was 9600gt -> gtx 260 x2 sli -> gtx 670 -> gtx 1080.

*Based on performance jumps from previous generation jumps and subsequent performance demand on newer games vs older cards.
 
lincsman

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Intel_man said:
Video cards in the 1060/1070 region of performance typically should last 2-3 years* before you have the urge to get something new. The pattern I went through was 9600gt -> gtx 260 x2 sli -> gtx 670 -> gtx 1080.

*Based on performance jumps from previous generation jumps and subsequent performance demand on newer games vs older cards.
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Well my 770 is almost 4 years old and it is still doing acceptable I suppose, except titanfall 2 it really does poorly there. That is why I would rather get a 70 card as apposed to a 60. I went from 8800 GTX to GTX 650ti to GTX 770.
 
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