Building A Computer - Australia

nuketown · May 4, 2012

Well, my first post

I live in Sydney, and unfortunately in this country all technology is expensive.

I want to build a 'high-end' pc, based around intel's i7 processor.

I have heard Intel has released its 3rd gen processor... where could I find that?

What would be a good build?
With the i7, how good a motherboard/video card do I need?
Looking to spend under $1000.

Thankyou,

AND MAY THE 4TH BE WITH YOU.

wolfeking · May 4, 2012

okay, what are you looking to do with this computer? More than likely, you can get away with an i5. They are the same as the i7, just without Hyperthreading, which is a technology that enables 1 core to run 2 threads, which is only about a 30% gain.

as for the video card, that also depends on what you are planning to do. If you are gaming you will need a HD 6770 or better, or a GTX 550ti or better. If you are just looking to do basic things like surf the net and watch videos and the like, then you can get away with the built in intel HD video. There are also some intermediate cards that you could use, it all depends on what you are doing with it.

nuketown · May 4, 2012

wolfeking said:
okay, what are you looking to do with this computer? More than likely, you can get away with an i5. They are the same as the i7, just without Hyperthreading, which is a technology that enables 1 core to run 2 threads, which is only about a 30% gain.

as for the video card, that also depends on what you are planning to do. If you are gaming you will need a HD 6770 or better, or a GTX 550ti or better. If you are just looking to do basic things like surf the net and watch videos and the like, then you can get away with the built in intel HD video. There are also some intermediate cards that you could use, it all depends on what you are doing with it.

Hi, and thanks for your fast reply.

Honestly I'm looking for a computer that will run any game, and that will last me a few years (and leave expansion capability)

So I'd be happy to pay the extra $50 for the i7... And from my past experience, onboard graphics are not exceptional...

Could anyone recommend a specific motherboard and video-card?

Thanks!

wolfeking · May 4, 2012

okay, I have no idea what prices are in Australia. However an i7 are not any help for 99% of games. if you are gaming, save the money and get a i5-3570k and spend the extra on a video card. I would suggest a GTX 580 or GTX 680, maybe a HD 7970 if you wish. And for the motherboard, a gigabyte, ASrock, MSI or EVGA board with the Z77 chipset.

Perkomate · May 4, 2012

pccasegear.com.au are where I get all my stuff. They're in Melbourne, so shipping heavy items like cases isn't much of an option. They do, however, have ripper deals on everything else.

There's a few companies I know of that do good prices.

-doublepost-
It's more than $100 more for the I7 3770K than the I5 3570K.

wolfeking · May 4, 2012

nuketown · May 4, 2012

wolfeking said:
okay, going by that, here is what I would do if you are gaming.

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25_31&products_id=17170
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_23_845&products_id=18670
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=187_346_1184&products_id=20138
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1170&products_id=16575
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=210_344&products_id=19747
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_711_1183&products_id=19868
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=658_667&products_id=19580
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_305&products_id=15160

Thanks for that, your a legend!

My only questions:

1) Do I need a 750w PSU?
2) I've never heard of Asrock... Is that a good brand?
3) Would I need a video card of $500?

Thanks!

nuketown · May 4, 2012

Sorry, you do need a PSU 600w+ for that video card.

wolfeking · May 4, 2012

you stated you wanted a computer that would play any game. The 580, 7970 and 680 are the best out there. I linked you the 580, but you could get any of them. even a 570 would do the job well. The 580 would probably get away with a 650 watt PSU, but the 750 would be a bit safer.

ASrock is an offshoot of Asus. It is a very good board, and their customer service is top notch.

nuketown · May 5, 2012

wolfeking said:
you stated you wanted a computer that would play any game. The 580, 7970 and 680 are the best out there. I linked you the 580, but you could get any of them. even a 570 would do the job well. The 580 would probably get away with a 650 watt PSU, but the 750 would be a bit safer.

ASrock is an offshoot of Asus. It is a very good board, and their customer service is top notch.

Thanks for the advice on the motherboard.

Video card $500
CPU. $250
Motherboard. $150
Storage. $100
PSU. $100
Case. $85
RAM. $60

$1250

That's a little over what I have. How bad would a http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_876&products_id=20109 be, for example?

Any help apreciated.

wolfeking · May 5, 2012

It is the same card as the GTX460 just updated. I would go for a 560ti as it is a good bit better.

If you are only gaming, and only under windows, then I would suggest a HD6870/6950 over them though as they will probably perform better at a lower cost.

nuketown · May 6, 2012

wolfeking · May 6, 2012

your skimping on it a bit and putting money in the wrong places.

The CPU. The 3570k/2500k will do the same job cheaper. The i7 is at most only 30% better and that is assuming you can use over 4 threads, which most games do not.

Motherboard, get the plain extreme 4, not the m. The m is smaller causing it to run hotter.

VGA. The 6770 is stronger at around the same price. If you add another 100 from going to a 2500k or the like, then you can get a 6870 or 6950 and have a much better gaming system.

byteninja2 · May 6, 2012

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=19867
Get this, bigger than the m and almost exactly the same.
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=18853
^ Get this. It would beat the cheese out of a 6770 which in turn means the gtx 560 would shoot the 7770 in the face. And only $10 more. The i5 is very simaler in gaming performance to the i7.

nuketown · May 6, 2012

Oh, and is a 600W PSU powerful enough for everything?

wolfeking · May 6, 2012

The board supports overclocking and has a fair amount of options for it. Its the board I have (well when it get back from RMA).

600 should be enough if it is a quality unit.

nuketown · May 6, 2012

wolfeking said:
The board supports overclocking and has a fair amount of options for it. Its the board I have (well when it get back from RMA).

600 should be enough if it is a quality unit.

RMA, huh? Would you still consider this board to be of good quality?

wolfeking · May 6, 2012

yea. I made a newb mistake with the screwdriver when I was messing with cable management. The board is top notch, but it can't withstand having a capacitor knocked off.

nuketown · May 6, 2012

wolfeking said:
yea. I made a newb mistake with the screwdriver when I was messing with cable management. The board is top notch, but it can't withstand having a capacitor knocked off.

Haha O.K.

I was wondering, just as a general question - is AMD good? e.g the 8 cores? Does anyone know if AMD supports hardware virtulization?

wolfeking · May 6, 2012

God knows I am not really one to be discussing AMD, but the way I understand it the 8 core is a 4 module design. Each module is like 1.5 cores but is marketed as 2. The module design will not perform quite as well as 2 actual cores. The FX series will hold its own in games, but you will get better overall performance from an intel 2500k or 2600k or the ivybridge replacement to them.

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