Building a Computer -Intel Processor n Motherboard ISSUES

minipress

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Hello guys .
Just got redirected here. Hope will get good replies.
I am thinking to buy a new desktop for my heavy multi-tasking needs like heavy browsing, some multiples of few REALTIME software (doing calculations all the time), some test editors and some other small applications running all the time.

But i am issues with selecting the best processor and accordingly compatible LATEST motherboard with it.
I want to go with INTEL processors and motherboard only as of now.

Now what i decided on till now is i can fit Intel's new Core i5 processors (750 or 750S) (These are 4Core/ 4Thread types and without HT)
but i see Core2Quad top range and Core 2 Extremes which are infact old are more costlier than that (with 4C/4T type and even with HT)

Now dilemma is is costlier means best for me out of these options?
Further there is lot of fuss about HT. Some say is not much worth? applications dont support it. Some say its back with i series of processors (not i5 though) and very useful and lot more confusion.
Sure my needs are on multitasking and something running multiple threads for faster processing would be great?

Can you kindly post your views and help me out selecting a processor and then according a good compatible mother board too?

BUDGET : About 1k$
(For Processor +Motherboard +RAM + HDD +Graphics Card (if needed) +Monitor (21-26inch))


For your info (for other i have decided)
For RAM: i can go with DDR 3 1333 or DDR 2 800 (as DDR 2 1066/1333 mhz dont have much edge on various tests done around net and so is DDR 3 1066 mhz over DDR 3 1333Mhz)
Brand can be Kingston or any other reliable one
of course in the end i have to see support with mother board too.

For HDD : Seagate barracuda 1 TB 7200RPM ST31000S28AS ; 65$ at my place

For Graphics Card : Here again processor and mother board comes in for inbuilt Graphics. Though i am easy (in fact better) with purchasing a standalone NVIDIA graphics card and select something with no onboard Graphics card to save double-spending.
Will ask later about this
May be GEFORCE 8800G or 9400GT. Dual display port is very important (read below)

For Monitor : IMPORTANT here: i plan to use multiple screens for my Desktop. At least 2 is something i surely need. Further i am not replying on more than 2 as there are Main USB monitor solutions available for later use
Sohere again motherboard/graphics card comes in into picture.
New LCD Monitor i will be buying will be high end with atleast DVI-D & HDMi inputs (and most probably D-Sub/VGA, S-vdeo and even Composite)
Still my old CRT monitor is VGA and i intend to use it as 2nd monitor)

For Heat Sink : I do not know yet i will need it or not But i think selecting it is not a problem, after major processor gets done. Though i5 has heat sink included.

For CD/DVD: I already have a new CD/DVD/REwriter Combo from LG

For Cabinet I have selected a high end cabinet with good power watt'ge PSU and nice AIR circulation system.


Looking forward guys !
 
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CPU - Core i5 750/ i7 860, depends on budget (any of these would faster than C2Q)

Mobo - GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...412&cm_re=gigabyte_P55-_-13-128-412-_-Product

RAM - min. of 2 x 2GB, the faster the better. Go for DDR3 2000/ 1600, depends on how much you want to spend

Video card - I assume it is just for display. I think 5450 for its eyefinity
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127480&cm_re=5450-_-14-127-480-_-Product

Heatsink - Use stock if you not overclock

Case + PSU - This combo look good
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.440193
 
Thanks but..

Thanks Daisy for your reply.

1)For Mobo i was more interested in INTEL mobo's only. i have no experience with Giga ones. are you sure they are good? (esp the model you mentioned)?

Actually, in intel compatible Mobo's without Graphics support are only
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=40078 & http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=40077
Further i hope you read about Graphics card thingy. If say i am banking on graphics card for all multi monitor and multi connection (VGA +DVI-D +HDMi etc), there is no need for me to get a motherboard with inbuilt graphics. isnt it?
Further as be intel site, http://processormatch.intel.com/CompDB/SearchResult.aspx?ProcNbr=i5-750
all compatible mobo's of intel would still require graphics card. So buying some MOBO with inbuilt graphics is surely waste of money? Kindly reassure me?

I see the GiGA model you mentioned has no graphics. Thats nice, but let me know the issue raised abopve. I have never used them.


2) i see DDR3 1666 is also around..dont know what edge is got over 1333 one? Will inquire its rates.

3) Dont need heat sink, not overclocking now.

Well newegg is a nice retailer but i wont be able to buy it from there. i think shipping it here in south asia will be costly. Better by regional multi-brand major dealer. Aint it?
Thanks again
 
Newegg will not ship to south asia.
Where exactly do you live.
Gigabyte motherboards are or of really good quality and you should definately go for them instead of the intel boards.
The onboard GPU is pointless if you are getting an aftermarket GPU so no point in having the onboard GPU and anyways the more expensive boards are all non-IGP boards whereas only cheap boards are IGP.
 
Well, point for going for a NVIDIA/ATi GPU is the reason that i5750 doesn't support any of the inbuilt GPU of all intel compatible mobo's.
Its like buying something (intel mobo's ) with no use. Am i right>?
EDIt: i just noticed these 2 compatible intel boards has no inbuit-Graphics
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=40077 &
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=40078
Support DDR3-1666 also (but no virtualization tech.)

How are they?

I just stumbled across a link stating if we want to overclocked, its better to go with ASUS or Gigabyte mobo and not intels' ! is it 100% correct?
I see this model of asus along with the Giga model mentioned by daisy are 2 another options
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...1620&cm_re=Asus_P7P55D-_-13-131-620-_-Product

yes i knew, it wont ship here. Some other online shops do (not interested though). Btw i live in india.
Thanks
 
Mobo - intel mobo actually is Foxconn OEM. gigabyte/ Asus would have better quality.
I am not sure what you are talking about with intel don't have onboard vga. They did, with H55/ H57 chipset motherboard. However, I am not sure if they support dual monitor

Case - I am not sure if you can get hold of Lian li. Or you can just get one of those popular gaming case. e.g. CM 922/ Antec 902, etc
 
Alright let me clarify again, with links :
As per intel's web site

http://processormatch.intel.com/CompDB/SearchResult.aspx?ProcNbr=i5-750
i5 750 needs a Graphics card even if most of those compatible mobo's has inbuilt GPU.
(Exceptions are the following 2 intel mobo's (non MICRO ATX) with no on-board GPU
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=40077 &
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=40078 )
Just inquired with the biggest dealer in capital and both of these are unavailable.

Anyway, no point discussing more as i think i am more inclined towards either Gigabyte or ASUS (preferably ASUS as they give warranty of Burnt GPU also), after advise of you people.
Inquired this too and GIGABYTE GA-P55-USB3 i.e. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128425 is not available presently :( (may take 2 weeks. who knows)
& instead of ASUS P7P55D-E, i.e. http://in.asus.com/ProductGroup2.aspx?PG_ID=mKyCKlQ4oSEtSu5m
they have this P7P55D-ELX (210$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131634&Tpk=ASUS P7P55D-E LX


Inquired RAM also.
Not getting DDR3 1600 :(
Getting DDR3 1333 2GB for 56$ &
DDR3 1066 2GB for 50$.
 
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Hi guys,
anyhow i decided on the following (They all are available at least)

PROCESSOR:

Intel Core i5 750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215&cm_re=i5_750-_-19-115-215-_-Product

MOBO: CAN you help me deciding this?
Options are
GIGABYTE GA-P55M-UD2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128405&
GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128412
ASUS P7P55D-E LX LGA (Comparatively costly) (onboard VIDEO Ports useless )
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131634
ASUS P7P55D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131404

*Gigabyte GA-H55M-USB3 (as suggested by Daisymtc, isn't fully useful as onboard VIDEO Ports would be useless with Lynnfield i5 750 Processor)

RAM :
Going with Kingston 2GB DDR3 1333 Mhz as of now. Will later add 2GB more. (Don't see any much differences between it and 1600 Mhz one. Further many boards are supporting 1600OC only)

GRAPHICS CARD
I have to have a DISCRETE graphics card.
I am thinking to get
NVIDIA XFX 9500GT 1GB or XFX 9600GT 1GB
or any ATI equivalent depending upon the technology supported on MB


Looking forward to replies!
 
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Alright thanks..i am trying to get hands on it.

Can you tell me something important about dual channel issue.
See all of these mobo's support 16GB memorywith 4 DIMM's

As i have decided to go with 4GB right now (2* 2 Gb sticks), what will happen later when i add 8GB more (2* 4Gb sticks) . Will that be useful bcoz then i will have total of (2+2)+(4+4) sticks.(Total 12GB)
Will that use the advantage of Dual channel? or i have to have combination of either 2+2+2+2 (8GB) or 4+4+4+4 (16GB max) to successfully use the dual channel tech

Thanks
 
At the end,

Ok guys after lot of headache and non-availability of things
I decide on following, Kindly let me know if you see any issue.
anyhow i decided on the following (They all are available at least)



1) PROCESSOR

INTEL Core i5 750 2.66Ghz (Lynnfield)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215

2) MOTHERBOARD
ASUS P7P55D LGA1156 IntelP55 ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131404

3) RAM: (TOTAL 4GB)
DDR3 2048MB 1333Mhz Non-ECC - 2 Modules
I checked the following for cmpatibility
http://dlsvr04.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1156/P7P55D/P7P55D-QVL.zip

4) HDD
Seagate Barracuda ST310005N1A1AS-RK SATA 1TB
http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=20b92d0ca8dce110VgnVCM100000f5ee0a0aRCRD

5) GRAPHICS CARD
ATI Radeon™ HD 5450 GPU 1GB
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desk...50-overview/Pages/hd-5450-specifications.aspx

6) SMPS
Coolermaster
http://www.coolermaster.in/products/product.php?language=in&act=detail&tbcate=2259&id=4176

Is this all ok to good?
Looking forward for replies.
Thanks very much once again
 
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