Bulldozer's gonna be on 'da cheapz!

Next batch of Zambezi processors due Q3 2011:

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The new processors would include Four new FX processors, As detailed in the roadmap Engineering samples are already available so we can expect a few benchmarks to come up shortly. Production would start in August 2011 while Retail availability is expected in Q3 2011. This could also mean that the Launch for the current lineup won’t be delayed much further than the original June-July Launch. The new processors would include AMD FX 8150 , FX 8100 AMD (8 cores), AMD FX 6100 (6-core) and AMD FX 4100 (4-cores) . Detailed specs below:

FX-8150, 8 Core, 125W, 8MB L2 Cache, 32Nm, DDR3 1866+ support
FX-8100, 8 Core, 95W, 8MB L2 Cache, 32Nm, DDR3 1866+ support
FX-6100, 6 Core, 95W, 6MB L2 Cache, 32Nm, DDR3 1866+ support
FX-4100, 4 Core, 95W, 4MB L2 Cache, 32Nm, DDR3 1866+ support


Read more: http://wccftech.com/2011/05/28/amd-...s-launch-scheduled-for-q3-2011/#ixzz1Nh0zE7ob
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spynoodle said:
Whoah. AMD just crapped their pants. :D
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LOL. AMD has just rode the Athlon pony long enough. Great architecture when it came out in 1999. Then improved with the Athlon XP, then the Athlon 64. The Phenom I was nothing but 4 Athlon 64 Brisbane cores on a die, then the Phenom II which was a major improvement on the cores and memory controller. But still the same old architecture.

I admit the Zambezi module approach is a brilliant counter to Intels Hyper Threading. But if it cant hang with SandyBridge clock for clock its not going to matter much unill you are hitting more then 4 threads.

If its as fast as SandyBridge clock for clock (or even really close) and clocks good. They will have a killer.
 
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So Zambezi is going to be delayed until September? That is a bummer. Well better to release late than release with problems like Intel did with their Sandybridge.

I will be happy if the AMD FX-4100 Quad-Core could match the high end of Intel's Bloomfield Quad CPUs in processing power running at stock speeds (like the Core i7 975).
 
2048Megabytes said:
So Zambezi is going to be delayed until September? That is a bummer. Well better to release late than release with problems like Intel did with their Sandybridge.

I will be happy if the AMD FX-4100 Quad-Core could match the high end of Intel's Bloomfield Quad CPUs in processing power running at stock speeds (like the Core i7 975).
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No it's not being delayed, what I posted was the second lot of Zambezi processors. The first set are still due in June.
 
linkin said:
No it's not being delayed, what I posted was the second lot of Zambezi processors. The first set are still due in June.
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I am glad I misunderstood what you posted. It would have been a major bummer to wait September 2011 to see what AMD unveils.

I am presently trying to influence one of my buddies to let me build him a system with a new AMD Zambezi Quad-Core processor rather than buy from an original equipment manufacturer.
 
Can anyone tell me when is Intel's Ivy Bridge LGA 2011 releasing? I need to build a gaming rig with that CPU. Is it possible before release of Battlefield 3 and MW3?
 
Ankur said:
Can anyone tell me when is Intel's Ivy Bridge LGA 2011 releasing? I need to build a gaming rig with that CPU. Is it possible before release of Battlefield 3 and MW3?
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I've heard Q3 2011, Q2 2012, Q3 2012, no one really knows. I heard that Intel is going to release some chips in Q3 to compete with Bulldozer.
 
Q3 2011 would be good. I heard the same thing, Intel would probably release them earlier to compete with Bulldozer and will overclocked 2600k match against any of the latest Bulldozers :confused:
 
spynoodle said:
What about septacore? Being AMD, that could definitely happen. :)
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Pentacose sounds better, even with 2 less cores :D

mihir said:
Why do they do that??/
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Leaving out thuban cores:

AMD only make quad cores, with the exception of most dual core Atlons, which are true Dual cores

Say they made them all separately, that is 7 different machines they would need - Sempron, dual, tri and quad athlon, dual tri and quad Phenom. Say, as a made up number, for each of those 25% were at an acceptable level, by which I mean they all put out resonable amounts of heat, use reasonable amounts of power and are stable at the clocks they are required to be at. The other 75 have one or more cores which do not meet the specific criteria, so must be scrapped.

Now, in reality, they make just two processors - Quad core Phenom II's and dual core Athlons

Say that of those, 20% are fully working quads, 20% have 1 cores faulty, 20% 2 cores, 20% 3 cores and 20% doen't work correctly at all. You have just gone from AMD having 75% wastage, and that is money down the drain, to just 20% wastage.

There is another reason for it, which then explains why most can be unlocked, after all if the locked core was faulty, it wouldn't work at all when unlocked.

Say AMD get an order for 100 CPU's, 25 dual, 25 tri and 50 quad cores. By having just one manufacturing process they save money, whilst still being able to give the processors, just by locking cores and labelling them as dual or tri cores, rather than quad. They can be flexible with what they are able to produce, depending on demand, and will not have surplus, because they are able to just shut off cores as and when they need, depending on what products are required of them

spynoodle said:
Wow, Radeon 6000 on a die. There's something that'll catch some attention.
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Not really, just because it is a 6000 series doesn't mean it will be powerful. It is, after all integrated graphics still, no matter how you label it. If it is somewhere near the level of the Sandy Bridge integrated, where it is on or just exceeding the performance of a discreet graphics card, I would be mighty impressed.

I want them to come out already so I know whether to save up for Sandy Bridge or these. Waiting is killing me :(
 
Ankur said:
Q3 2011 would be good. I heard the same thing, Intel would probably release them earlier to compete with Bulldozer and will overclocked 2600k match against any of the latest Bulldozers :confused:
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It's only a matter of time until Intel releases a new set of processors. They're not Ivy Bridge, however. Intel is still yet to release the performance sector of Sandy Bridge (lol, the 2600k is "low-end" :)). We should see some really nice CPUs in a couple months.
 
By the sounds of it, if the high end processors are going to be better than the 2600K, AMD will have no chance at all unless they can come up with a miracle.
 
Hmm, I think Intel's second line of Sandy Bridge would match Bulldozer and Ivy Bridge would walk over Bulldozer.
If this is Bulldozer
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Then I hope this is Ivy Bridge :D

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http://www.anandtech.com/show/4365/computex-2011-asrock-llano-990fx-and-z68-motherboards

Just above Llano we will have the long awaited Bulldozer CPU. AMD originally wanted to launch Bulldozer at Computex but performance issues with its B0 and B1 stepping chips pushed back the launch. Now we're looking at a late July launch with B2 silicon, but performance today is a big unknown. Apparently the performance of B1 stepping silicon doesn't look too good.

Bulldozer will be mechanically compatible with Socket-AM3 motherboards but AMD will only officially support the CPU on AM3+ motherboards. To differentiate AM3+ from AM3 motherboards AMD is releasing a new chipset: the 9-series. Functionally the 9-series chipset is no different from the 8-series that it replaces; it'll simply be used on AM3+ boards exclusively.
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:(
 
Ankur said:
Hmm, I think Intel's second line of Sandy Bridge would match Bulldozer and Ivy Bridge would walk over Bulldozer.
If this is Bulldozer
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Then I hope this is Ivy Bridge :D

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lol. :)

linkin said:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4365/computex-2011-asrock-llano-990fx-and-z68-motherboards



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I have a bad feeling that this "performance issue" is basically AMD saying "we're screwed." We'll have to wait and see, I guess.

IMO, AMD only has to beat LGA1155 to get some nice market share. LGA2011 doesn't really matter to them, because it's going to be way too expensive. They still have to put out some decent server processors, though.
 
I agree Spynoodle. If Zambezi core processors can keep up with or be slightly above Socket 1155 and Socket 1366 processors people will still buy AMD products.

Socket 1155 and 1366 Quad-Core processors can handle almost any program out there presently when combined with the right hardware.
 
xbitlabs says that BD delayed to september

The long-awaited central processing units (CPUs) featuring the code-named Bulldozer micro-architecture are now fully-functional and work without flaws, according to a person who wished to remain anonymous. The problem with the delay of the AMD FX family of chips is that they currently cannot operate at truly high-speeds and thus cannot achieve performance levels that AMD wanted them to. As result, AMD will need to design a new stepping of the processor and therefore delay the commercial launch to September.
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http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...lock_Speed_of_FX_Bulldozer_Chips_Sources.html
 
The longer the delay it the higher the consumers performance expectations get.
They are making things difficult for themselves.
If AMD does not make a come back now,things are going to get really difficult for them.
 
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