Never said they would not. AM3 will be a frisbee in a few years. So will 1156. Whats the argument, unless you just want one, go for it.
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Never said they would not. AM3 will be a frisbee in a few years. So will 1156. Whats the argument, unless you just want one, go for it.
Umm, ok then why did you make this statement-
Your point was obviously not to get socket 1156 because it will be useless in a couple years....
Umm, ok then why did you make this statement-
Your point was obviously not to get socket 1156 because it will be useless in a couple years....
He was talking about socket 1156 and few years. Hell, you have to admit Intel is socket crazy. Even the first Bulldozers are going to be AM3 compatible unless you go for the new socket AM3+ ( or what ever they will call it) for quad channel memory.
bomberboysk
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Rephrase your statement, ASRock is the budget subsidary of Asus, there is a reason their boards are cheap, they are limited in the features they provide(eg- their boards may have say, an 8phase VRM, but it will be from some generic manufacturer while an Asus board might use a high end setup such as that from Volterra) and have quite poor warranties(ASRock support is terrible...even Asus's support is much better, and Asus has some pretty poor support IMO).
As far as AM2 boards being frisbees....most of them yes, there are a few out there than can take advantage of Phenom II processors.
I've never had to use their warranty services anyway, so I don't know.
I've taken a P55 pro (lower end P55 board) and overclocked an I7 860 to 4.9ghz on AIR cooling (1.65 Vcore IIRC) with that board. If something was cheaply built/inferior materials used and going to blow up, it would have.
And I'm on a P55 extreme right now, have taken this I7 to 4.5ghz so far, planning on running some DICE soon.
I've also owned two AM2+ asrock boards and like both of those too.
But I've never had an 775 asrock boards.
I did just pick up an ASRock 478 board, 915 chipset with a x16 slot and I can run my extreme edition P4 3.4ghz gallatin core on for some fun. I'm sure I'll like that board too
I've taken a P55 pro (lower end P55 board) and overclocked an I7 860 to 4.9ghz on AIR cooling (1.65 Vcore IIRC) with that board. If something was cheaply built/inferior materials used and going to blow up, it would have.
And I'm on a P55 extreme right now, have taken this I7 to 4.5ghz so far, planning on running some DICE soon.
I've also owned two AM2+ asrock boards and like both of those too.
But I've never had an 775 asrock boards.
I did just pick up an ASRock 478 board, 915 chipset with a x16 slot and I can run my extreme edition P4 3.4ghz gallatin core on for some fun. I'm sure I'll like that board too
mx344
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haha thnk you, my board is one of those am2 boards that offers the ability to use the new phenoms/athlons.
OP, i would go i3, they offer great overclockablilty, as 87dtna pointed out i believe.And for the price point, its great for what it offers.
bomberboysk
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I've never had to use their warranty services anyway, so I don't know.
I've taken a P55 pro (lower end P55 board) and overclocked an I7 860 to 4.9ghz on AIR cooling (1.65 Vcore IIRC) with that board. If something was cheaply built/inferior materials used and going to blow up, it would have.
And I'm on a P55 extreme right now, have taken this I7 to 4.5ghz so far, planning on running some DICE soon.
I've also owned two AM2+ asrock boards and like both of those too.
But I've never had an 775 asrock boards.
I did just pick up an ASRock 478 board, 915 chipset with a x16 slot and I can run my extreme edition P4 3.4ghz gallatin core on for some fun. I'm sure I'll like that board too
The P55 pro won't necessarily "blow up", but you won't be delivering very clean power to the processor...will hinder the highest clocks you can get and can shorten the life of the processor if the power is "dirty" enough.
Only in the past year or so has ASRock even started producing "enthusiast" boards, previosuly they used to be a budget only motherboard manufacturer, but there is a reason that ASUS has stuff under the ASRock name...they don't want to (directly) put the ASUS name on it, as it is of lesser quality than the ASUS boards.
an0nym0us
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quality of VRMs and the number of phases should also be taken into account when overclocking is concerned. you wouldn't want to be in the middle of playing COD:MW2 and then your processor takes a crap because there's a surge/overvolt or even worse an undervolt situation to your cpu. i've seen too many people build computers with crap boards to recommend anything less than tier 1 components.
I've had no overclocking stability/voltage differences between the ASrock and Gigabyte P55 boards I've used.
As far as I'm concerned, it would seem to me that with atleast socket 1156 and AM2/3, asrock is building quality boards. And since thats the socket in question here, IMO asrock is very good to use. I've also heard the ASrock X58 extreme is excellent bang for the buck.
I've also owned three Asus boards of various sockets, and the only one I liked was the P5Q-E socket 775 board.
As far as I'm concerned, it would seem to me that with atleast socket 1156 and AM2/3, asrock is building quality boards. And since thats the socket in question here, IMO asrock is very good to use. I've also heard the ASrock X58 extreme is excellent bang for the buck.
I've also owned three Asus boards of various sockets, and the only one I liked was the P5Q-E socket 775 board.
I missed that part.
That statement pretty much misses the point. Of course nobody would buy a AM2 board now. Its the point if you (already have) a AM2/+ board you can upgrade to a AM3 processor. Not as many of the AM2, but almost all the AM2+ will run a AM3 processor. True your stuck with DDR2, but if you dont care its a killer selling point.
Another point. A GA-MA790X UD4P(one board off the top of my mind) will run every AM2/AM2+ and AM3 processor made.
You got to admit if AMD was equal clock for clock their socket compatibility would be the reason people would call intel sockets insane/another netburst moment.
If they were equal clock for clock who's socket design would you really think was the best. Just because Intel is faster clock for clock doesnt change that fact.
bomberboysk
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Well, as we all know the AM2/AM2+/AM3 platform is going to be replaced after the first advent of bulldozer, but there is very good reason for that (Sheer bandwidth on only ~940 or so pins with many of those dedicated to power). AMD's selling point has always been how long they keep a socket on life support so to speak, socket A lasted for an eternity, albeit 754/939 each had short lifespans...that was because of a complete and total architecture change(s).
They even drug out socket 7 with the super 7. I think dropping 939 completely for AM2 killed more customers for AMD then losing the clock battle with the core 2.
Drenlin
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AMD might not win clock for clock...but dollar for dollar is a different story, IMO, especially once you factor in their motherboards. Hell, an Athlon II 240 and a cheaper 880G board could make a light gaming setup (think Source/MMO/RTS games) for under $150. Would make a perfect HTPC, too.
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There's no socket 1156 equivalent for the Athlon II line...so if you want to play like that, you can build a 775 setup. An E3300 and a decent P43 board will run you around $140. Or, if the Athlon II is ''low end gaming'', an I3 must be mid range therefore the price is justified. It would be about $200-225 for an I3 setup.
I've owned both CPU's (well ok an E3200 and Athlon II 245 is what I had, but for all intents and purposes the same), I would rather have the E3300 over an athlon II! They are about the same strength clock for clock, but the E3300 is a much better clocker. My Athlon II I could get to 3.9ghz, the E3200 I got 4.2ghz out of it. The higher multi of a 3300 will help(compared to my 3200 I had), while the lower multi of the 240 will hurt (compared to the 245 I had).
fastdude
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I guess I'm a perfectionistNever mind, E3300 over an athlon? :O never!
Yes absolutely. I've owned both (pretty much, as I said I owned a 3200 and a 245), the E3300 is stronger clock for clock, and it overclocks more anyway so yeah definitely the E3300.