Can I fit 2 VCD movies onto a single DVD?

[puttputtgolf2000]

I bought 2 VCD movies = 4 CD's each around 700mb but instead of carrying around 4 cd's I want to put them all into 1 handy dvd.

Total 2800mb or 2.8GB, but Nero says it will not fit onto a single 4GB DVD. The re-encoded size is in excess of 5GB! Why is this happening and is there a way to make this work?

thanks in advance

 

[atomic]

are you using a duel layer dvd-r?

 

[Kanduu]

Instead of trying to create a MOVIE disk with nero, create a DATA-DISK instead. Then copy the 4 VCD'S to you HARD-DISK and run nero.

VCD's are stored in *.DAT format a VCD, (In the MPEGAV FOLDER). Nero recodes the
*.DAT files into *.VOB files on a DVD. You can also tell nero to DOWN-GRADE the *DAT files, so that they will fit onto the dvd, in movie-mode

 

[puttputtgolf2000]

My LG is dual layer capable, but my media isn't.

I experimented with data discs before but I don't know why it didn't work. I tried burning a movie in .dat and a movie in .mpeg formats onto a dvdrw just to see if my dvd player would recognize the formats. It didn't recognize either format on the the data disc.

If I use Nero to burn a MOVIE disc, it will give me a popup saying the files are over the disc capacity and it will require a dvd-9 disc. How do I get it to resize the files for me, and will the resolution suffer from the already so-so quality of normal VCDs?

 

[puttputtgolf2000]

Does nobody know how to do this?

 

[Geoff]

are you using a duel layer dvd-r?

dual layer supports up to 8.5gb, no need for him to need that much. And what format are you converting it to?

 

[Apokarteron]

Yes, if you decrease the quality you can even fit 10+ movies on a DVD-R

 

[LobsterLover]

just go out and buy a few Dual Layer discs, unless you can figure out how to downgrade the quality, but I would just buy new discs, since quality is awesome!

 

[Super_Nova]

The reason the movies don't fit is once they're converted to DVD format the files are bigger. DVD's use MPEG2 standard while VCD's use MPEG1. Plus DVD's are at 720x480 while VCD's are 352x240 resolution. After the converstion takes place that takes up more room. Instead of looking at Megabytes look at minutes. Each CD holds 80 minutes. That's an hour and 20 minutes. So 2 full VCD's are 160 minutes. That's 2 hours and 40 minutes. A 4.7GB DVD holds 2 hours. So two VCD's are 40 minutes too long for a single layer DVD. Easiest thing for me to tell you to do is if your burner will support dual layer use dual layer disks. All hope is not lost for single layers. If you could somehow convert the .dat files to .vob files perhaps just maybe a program like DVD Shrink could compress them.

 

[Praetor]

Can I fit 2 VCD movies onto a single DVD?

Total 2800mb or 2.8GB, but Nero says it will not fit onto a single 4GB DVD.

You should be able to. DVDVIDEO and VCDs are not limited by space-per se but they are limited by duration:
VCD = ~75Minutes of video
DVD = 155min to 495min
In order to get them to burn as DVDVIDEO, you will need to transcode VCD to DVD (although i suppose you could try to burn it as a VCD onto DVD media but you'll have to use a more robust application to do so ... Nero has too many safeguards and a lot of idiotproofness to it)

How do I get it to resize the files for me, and will the resolution suffer from the already so-so quality of normal VCDs?

I wouldnt uise the Nero Encoder -- sometimes it works, most of the time it just craps out horribly.

Does nobody know how to do this?

I probably do, but what exactly do you to do?

The reason the movies don't fit is once they're converted to DVD format the files are bigger. DVD's use MPEG2 standard while VCD's use MPEG1. Plus DVD's are at 720x480 while VCD's are 352x240 resolution

- Well naturally they'll be bigger but the final restriction is time (indirectly from bitrate)
- You can encode DVDs to several bitrates to tailor to specific tasks whether it be 4000, 4500, 6000 or 8000kbs (which are the more common bitrates)
- You can also have DVDs encoded to 352x240 (for NTSC)

Each CD holds 80 minutes. That's an hour and 20 minutes. So 2 full VCD's are 160 minutes

- Specifically, thats 80minutes ot audio data ... it comes out to ~75minutes of VCD data

If you could somehow convert the .dat files to .vob files perhaps just maybe a program like DVD Shrink could compress them.

Good point although with the poor quality of VCDs to start with (352x240@1150) that might not be such a good idea ... it might be better to encode to MPEG2@6000/8000kbs with audio comrpessed and burn to a single DVD

Using something like TMPGEnc (which has a free version), you can do the job If you want step by step instructions, i can probably provide those too