Can I Go Vista??...

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Fritzjavel

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The Computer in my Sig.. I'm plannin on going vista i'm going to do the upgrade option... I wondering will my current games still work for vista??... COD4, MOH Airborne, CIV 4 (ALL EXPANSION)... Sims 2. (all expansion)... also is my onboard graphic okay... i mean in about 4 weeks give or take a week i'm going to get a 3870, which will fill my need until next year... so what should i upgrade before, or after going vista... and any thing i should prepare myself for??...
 
The machine shouldn't have any problems running it. However, I know for a while gaming performance was quite poor on Vista machines. It's currently around the same as XP SP3, but after all the glitches, errors, and other problems I've had with vista, I'd personally suggest simply sticking with XP.
 
Forget Metal of Honor at least the Allied Assault edition of that game. The installer is written specifically for XP. The system specs will easily see Vista run there with one look.

The cpu and 2gb of memory work easy enough while you may want to wait for the 3870 before the upgrade however. For gaming more then simply going for Vista that will be the main need.

With XP on one drive being a bare OS except for the basics and Vista as the primary with a good load of programs Vista sees the desktop before XP. That's on a system running a 6000+ X2 with 2gb of DDR2 800 memory. The shutting down takes a little longer with the new version however.

The rest is things like disabling the new Aero themes and staying with the Classic Windows along with unchecking the sidebar in the msconfig utility to get that off of the desktop. You can always create a desktop shortcut with a right click to see that loaded. Far less crashes in games with a better recovery seen despite the few disappointments like no add/remove Windows components option. That's gone for good having been seen since the 0X family.
 
Okay here is my final conclusion.. I'm going to get vista ultimate, after i get my 3870... I'm giong to try to get a new 80GB HD and install XP in that, and on my main 250 i'm going to install Vista... and from that point vista should see the XP HD,. It would be easier if i bought another 250gb and just placed vista in it... then all my xp things would stay in the 250 i have now... well overall i'm going vista...LOL
 
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Forget Metal of Honor at least the Allied Assault edition of that game. The installer is written specifically for XP. The system specs will easily see Vista run there with one look.
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installing in compatibility mode fixed this for a buddy of mine :rolleyes:

Far less crashes in games with a better recovery seen despite the few disappointments like no add/remove Windows components option. That's gone for good having been seen since the 0X family.
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wrong again, going into control panel there is an option to add/remove windows components (at least in vista ultimate)
 
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Okay here is my final conclusion.. I'm going to get vista ultimate, after i get my 3870... I'm giong to try to get a new 80GB HD and install XP in that, and on my main 250 i'm going to install Vista... and from that point vista should see the XP HD,. It would be easier if i bought another 250gb and just placed vista in it... then all my xp things would stay in the 250 i have now... well overall i'm going vista...LOL
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Why don't you just install both operating systems Windows XP and Vista by dual booting? If you don't like Vista you can go back to XP without a hassle.
 
2048megabyte, you saying i should just make a partition on my first 250 gb HD, and try out vista and if i don't like it i should uninstall it?
 
From my limited experience on dual booting, I do believe you need to use the hard drive you are currently using to boot Windows XP from. Make a new partition on that hard drive (around 50 gigabytes) and install Vista on the new partition. From what I have heard setting up a dual boot isn't that difficult.
 
I think if you insert the Vista CD it will autopartition for you, and ask you how big of a partition you'd like to use for it.
 
Why buy both when you can spend that $130 on hardware (and you'll have more room on the hard drive)? XP is generally stable than Vista, but Vista is the successor to XP - XP is slowly but surely becoming obsolete. It's all a matter of personal preference. You can't get your money back once you buy the software!!!
 
Fritzjavel said:
Okay here is my final conclusion.. I'm going to get vista ultimate, after i get my 3870... I'm giong to try to get a new 80GB HD and install XP in that, and on my main 250 i'm going to install Vista... and from that point vista should see the XP HD,. It would be easier if i bought another 250gb and just placed vista in it... then all my xp things would stay in the 250 i have now... well overall i'm going vista...LOL
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When trying out the RC1 beta and then later ending up with the Home Premium edition(Ultimate sold out fast 1st day :eek: ) I had added more drives seeing two ide along with two sata models and running three different Windows plus Mandriva. XP pro went with the last build and still waiting on Mandriva 2008.

There one drive was simply set aside for storage/backup with working with Vista beside XP Pro and Home editions tossing Linux in. The one thing I working with differently now is a new tool that protects Vista's restore points when booting in XP from being canceled out when setting both versions up as a dual boot and not as stand alone OSs on two different drives. When the new tool I'm currently testing sees a beta release it will be available for seeing that problem eliminated since it hides any Vista primary from XP.

The Ultimate edition is more or less the luxery edition with more features and some other options as well as better network support tossed into it. That runs about $209- compared to the Home Premium tag of $119- there for an OEM disk. Then imagine spending $399.99 for the retail version! :eek:

Despite some grievances by some who originally were running 512mb to 1gb of memory on their systems or laptops when Vista arrived it's been proving itself a bit more stable in several ways over XP. Being a long overdue, updated, and using more default memory in general it threw everyone off at first. But MS was looking at the 8gb and 16gb capacity boards now seen there while still using the 32bit kernel.
 
I dislike mandriva.

lol $209 for ultimate?

its £229 here , thats like $500

things are wayyyyy cheaper in the US than over here, lol i think im gonna get ultimate sent to me air mail.

lol, $209 for ultimate, thats cheaper than home basic is over here (£120 or ~ $215)
 
That's the OEM for system builders price when ordering online. The retail tags are steep and when first seeing those I thought I'll just browse around a pc show advertising discounts and grab an OEM there.

The retail on Home Premium is $299-US with the Basic being less. But there is some good news since I last looked now that SP1 is out. Mainly that's now seeing the Ultimate/SP1 OEM disk for $179.99US compared to the original. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116490
 
I'd sooner install a virus on my computer than install Vista. The virus would take up less space, it wouldn't slow my computer down as much, and it wouldn't necessarily prevent me from playing Diablo II and Quake IV.
 
Apparently you need an upgrade to start with. Vista takes into account the newer hardwares available over an older system like the one in your sig seeing only 1gb.

For an analogy 98SE ran like a turtle on an old I486 machine seeing 3.1 upgraded to 95 when first tried there. At the time it was the new MS toy being larger and needing more memory then. But it was ME that flopped! Expect Windows 7 to be even larger to some degree.
 
If speed was the only issue, then you might have a point. However, you're failing to accound for security, stability, compatibility...
 
I see a much improved crash control in Vista then seen with either the Home or Pro editions of XP. When Vista was first out I went right after it to make comparisons and decide if it would be good for anything now seeing it as the defualt OS on the current build.

There were other things about Vista that weren't preferred here like seeing the add/remove Windows components no longer available at least in the HP edition. It actually loads up faster to the desktop over XP while taking longer to shutdown. You can draw a comparison with that.

For Stability I don't even see half the driver errors come up running various softwares as well as simply gaming. That seems to work along with the better crash control when a game or app locks up solid. But no matter what version of Windows you run something will eventually lock it up where hitting the reset is still needed.
 
add/remove is available, they just moved it

its under applications or software or whatever they call it, and on the left thing it says "enable/disable windows features" or something like that. Its in the retail and my oem (lenovo) ones.

And it may load up (very marginally) faster, but to actually get to a usable desktop (evetrything loaded, idle) it takes longer than xp

I agree the crash control and driver control is better and it does seem more stable but i just wish it didnt eat so much memory and clock cycles.
 
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