Cheep Motherboard

[FFCFoo]

Hi, I wanted to no what is the cheapest motherboard I can get for my pc. Witch is a:

ASUS M2N-MX SE MotherBoard

I recently took out the coolant fan and when I put it back in I guess I bridged it, So now I have to get a new motherboard because I fried mine. I noticed it was fried because I turned on my computer and it turned off like 3 seconds later. So ya. I need help on which is the best one to get.

 

[wicked]

wow that sux try here heres a link http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=M3A78-CM-GREEN-DT&cpc=SCH should work with all your old stuff they take paypal too

 

[StrangleHold]

Hi, I wanted to no what is the cheapest motherboard I can get for my pc. Witch is a:

ASUS M2N-MX SE MotherBoard

I recently took out the coolant fan and when I put it back in I guess I bridged it, So now I have to get a new motherboard because I fried mine. I noticed it was fried because I turned on my computer and it turned off like 3 seconds later. So ya. I need help on which is the best one to get.

What do you mean you took out a fan and bridged it? Did you do this while it as running. Might be something else keeping it from booting.

 

[FFCFoo]

What do you mean you took out a fan and bridged it? Did you do this while it as running. Might be something else keeping it from booting.

Uhhh here is pictures I took of it.

 

[Bodaggit23]

Those pics are low quality and don't really show anything,
but if you shorted the socket, I'd be surprised if you don't
need a new CPU also.

Maybe even RAM.

 

[StrangleHold]

The question about your chipset, it a Nvidia Geforce 6100. But about any AM2 socket board will run it.

The Photos didnt help much. Need to know exactly what you did.

 

[porterjw]

Those pics are low quality and don't really show anything

They show someone who pulled off their HSF and took the CPU with it. More than likely bent/broke a pin either while pulling it out or trying to put it back together. One of the PITA things about that style of Socket-types. It's not the OP's fault - after so long, the TC glues the CPU to the HSF - it's common. You could try twisting the CPU off the HSF and cleaning all the old TC off of both items. Then , check the pin side of the CPU for bent/broken pins. If any are bent you can attempt to move them back very gently; if any are broken, more than likely it's still inside the MoBo Socket and you need a new MoBo and CPU.

 

[StrangleHold]

He said
(I recently took out the coolant fan and when I put it back in I guess I bridged it)

I'm having to leap to understand what that means. But the photos do look like the CPU is stuck to the bottom of the heatsink. But I dont see how he could cram it back down in the bracket with the socket lever down. Yeah your right talk about bending pins

 

[FFCFoo]

He said
(I recently took out the coolant fan and when I put it back in I guess I bridged it)

I'm having to leap to understand what that means. But the photos do look like the CPU is stuck to the bottom of the heatsink. But I dont see how he could cram it back down in the bracket with the socket lever down. Yeah your right talk about bending pins

Bending pins? Do you mean prongs? All those little prongs that are on the back of the coolant fan. I tryed to put the coolant fan back on to where it was with the little holes (Verry Difficult!) Then When I turned my computer on it shut off in 5 secs. Then I tryed again then it was 3 seconds. So I took it out.

This:

Onto this

 

[bomberboysk]

Bending pins? Do you mean prongs? All those little prongs that are on the back of the coolant fan. I tryed to put the coolant fan back on to where it was with the little holes (Verry Difficult!) Then When I turned my computer on it shut off in 5 secs. Then I tryed again then it was 3 seconds. So I took it out.

This:

Onto this

[/QUOTEThe pins on the bottom are you cpu, the white thing is the socket. You need to pull the cpu off the heatsink before you can even think of putting the cooler back on.

 

[porterjw]

Bending pins? Do you mean prongs? All those little prongs that are on the back of the coolant fan. I tryed to put the coolant fan back on to where it was with the little holes (Verry Difficult!) Then When I turned my computer on it shut off in 5 secs. Then I tryed again then it was 3 seconds. So I took it out.

OK, not sure how computer-literate you are, so let's start at the beginning, and please forgive me if I make it too simplified.

Everything black in the above picture is your Heat Sink Fan (HSF). The gray vertical lines behind it belong to your Heat Sink (HS). The HS draws heat away from your CPU to keep it cool and the HSF takes all that heat and blows it out. That view shows the top of your HS.

That view shows the bottom of your HS *and* the CPU. it's very common for the style Socket you have to pull the CPU out of it's Socket when you only want to remove the HS and HSF.

That is your Socket. The CPU should be locked into that, but again, if the thermal compound between the HS and CPU is old, it acts like a glue. So when you pulled off your HS, you pulled the CPU out with it. So...

Bending pins? Do you mean prongs? All those little prongs that are on the back of the coolant fan.

All those 'little prongs' are part of the CPU, not the coolant fan. Your Socket (Picture 3 above) will have a lever on it's side. The lever will lock/unlock the CPU into place. Provided all the pins are there on your CPU, I would do this:

1: gently twist your CPU off the bottom of the HS
2: clean all the thermal compound from both the top of the CPU and the bottom of the HS
3: pull up the lever on the Socket
4: gently place the CPU into the Socket (it will only go one way - if it doesn't fit, turn it 1/4 way and try again - DO NOT force it)
5: push the lever on the Socket back down
6: apply a little bit of new thermal compound (use the Search feature on these forums to find out how) onto the top of the CPU
7: gently place the HS/HSF directly on top of the CPU (straight down, don't wiggle it)
8: lock the HS/HSF into place on the Mother Board.

 

[FFCFoo]

[/QUOTEThe pins on the bottom are you cpu, the white thing is the socket. You need to pull the cpu off the heatsink before you can even think of putting the cooler back on.[/QUOTE]

I have absoulute no Idea what you just said. Like what is the heat sink?

 

[FFCFoo]

OK, not sure how computer-literate you are, so let's start at the beginning, and please forgive me if I make it too simplified.

Everything black in the above picture is your Heat Sink Fan (HSF). The gray vertical lines behind it belong to your Heat Sink (HS). The HS draws heat away from your CPU to keep it cool and the HSF takes all that heat and blows it out. That view shows the top of your HS.

That view shows the bottom of your HS *and* the CPU. it's very common for the style Socket you have to pull the CPU out of it's Socket when you only want to remove the HS and HSF.

That is your Socket. The CPU should be locked into that, but again, if the thermal compound between the HS and CPU is old, it acts like a glue. So when you pulled off your HS, you pulled the CPU out with it. So...



All those 'little prongs' are part of the CPU, not the coolant fan. Your Socket (Picture 3 above) will have a lever on it's side. The lever will lock/unlock the CPU into place. Provided all the pins are there on your CPU, I would do this:

1: gently twist your CPU off the bottom of the HS
2: clean all the thermal compound from both the top of the CPU and the bottom of the HS
3: pull up the lever on the Socket
4: gently place the CPU into the Socket (it will only go one way - if it doesn't fit, turn it 1/4 way and try again - DO NOT force it)
5: push the lever on the Socket back down
6: apply a little bit of new thermal compound (use the Search feature on these forums to find out how) onto the top of the CPU
7: gently place the HS/HSF directly on top of the CPU (straight down, don't wiggle it)
8: lock the HS/HSF into place on the Mother Board.

Wow. Umm first the CPU is on the bottom of the coolant fan right? And what do you mean by "clean all the thermal compound from both the top of the CPU and the bottom of the HS"

EDIT: I see a problem. You no those little prongs on the collant fan or cpu whatever. There are 2 missing. THey like broke off or something.

 

[porterjw]

Wow. Umm first the CPU is on the bottom of the coolant fan right? And what do you mean by "clean all the thermal compound from both the top of the CPU and the bottom of the HS"

EDIT: I see a problem. You no those little prongs on the collant fan or cpu whatever. There are 2 missing. THey like broke off or something.

In your case, yes, the CPU is on the bottom of the HS. However, normally it isn't - it's in the Socket of the MoBo. Common problem with your Socket style, though, so your not the first to do it, nor will you you be the last.

Thermal Compound is a layer of protection between your CPU and HS. It fills in microscopic pits in the metals and provides a solid layer for heat to be transferred between the two. Better heat transfer = cooler CPU = better performance. No thermal compound (TC) = poor heat transfer = CPU getting too hot and shutting down.

As far as the two missing pins...bad news Your CPU is dead, so you'll need another. In addition, most-likely, the missing pins are stuck in the Socket...more bad news. Your Socket is screwed and you'll need a new MoBo.

At this point, your options are to buy a pre-built system or build one yourself. A pre-built would be easier on your end, but cost a bit more. Building one yourself would entail a bit of work on your end (which we would be glad to help with - and it's a LOT easier than it seems), but be much cheaper money-wise spec-for-spec.

 

[StrangleHold]

Right.
This is your heatsink and fan or close to it.

This is your Processor or close to it.

Your processor is stuck to the bottom of the heatsink. You need to remove the Processor from the bottom of the heatsink. When you put the processor in the white socket on the board, the lever on the socket needs to be raised. After inserting the processor, you lower the lever till to locks. Then you apply some thermal compound to the top of the processor. Then you set the heatsink/fan on top of it and lock it down with the locking clamps on the socket bracket.

Check all the pins on the bottom of the processor after you remove to make sure any of them have not been bent.

As far as missing pins, there are missing pins on them stock, so it does not mean you pulled some off.

Are these the ones missing, if so your fine.