Computer for Parents $800

Shipping's a killer. This is right about $800 w/o gpu.
　
Intel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I32120 + Z77

Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 996995

SeaSonic M12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-222AL/BSBE LightScribe Support - OEM

If you count the mir, here's a nice one for $70.
Corsair Carbide Series 300R Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Hanns-G HL227DBB 21.5" LED monitor 5ms Full HD 250 cd/m2 X-Contrast 15,000,000:1
　
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A few video cards
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233193　
　
　
 
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FuryRosewood said:
^That is the point, everything will support 1333, and I don't see a point in fiddling with something where you will get a tiny bit of extra bandwidth.

And your telling me a 630W Seasonic cannot provide enough current for a i5 2xxx and a gt430? really? lol
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Where did I mention the seasonic? I was referring to the original case PSU you recommended.
 
^I assumed you saw the changed out PSU, sorry.

Benny you missed video, grab a gt430 or better, and the gt520 is not a better card than the 430
 
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Ok, so I've been reading over all the stuff you guys have posted. I've decided on a number of things:

Absolutely Sure =

1) http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
2) http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151093
3) http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226191

Not So Sure =

4) http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139011 (rebate will run out before I order)
5) http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.900273

Taxes/Shipping included this comes to $605. With the remaining $200 I could add the SSD, the LCD, maybe both. However, I'm pretty sure LCD and SSD are not priorities for my parents. As it stands, their current computer takes something like 2-3 minutes to load windows. I think the SpinPoint will be fast enough for them by comparison. Any suggestions on what to do with the spare cash if I don't put it towards an SSD or LCD. Should I upgrade the processor to an i5? How good is the integrated GPU on the i3's? I'm least familiar with motherboards so I'm especially concerned with getting the right motherboard for the hardware I'm buying. Lastly, are there any other cases comparable with the 300R or is it worth it even without the rebate (the free shipping is really nice since cases general cost quite a bit).

PS: I forgot to mention that they don't need a DVD/CD player/burner since we will just transplant the one from the old computer.
 
mobo and case looks fine, you may want a dedicated gpu, and will need a optical drive, but you may be able to get away with the onboard gpu on the 2120, but id crave more
 
thats nearly getting back to the i5 2500k i was suggesting cus of the hd3000 graphics, id just say drop in a gt430, its a simpler and possibly more potent mix without adding much more to the system load wise

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133356
GT430

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121442
Radeon 6670

Second choice is quite a bit more but i think it would do circles around either of the options placed earlier

Still really unnecessary either way, choice goes to the OP in the end, just know i have a pny gt430 in the machine in the living room and it plays most anything we throw at it with decent results, quite impressive for a sub 70 dollar gpu
 
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Yes, it is nearly getting back. Since there's no ssd, and looking like no LCD (altho If they're useing crt I'd definately get one).
 
Nearly everyone that has posted in here has been way off the mark. Why on earth recommend 500+W PSU for an i3 + no GPU?

Why 8GB for a system that has the most intensive task be using either a VPN or FTP?

Why i5's when, considering the tasks mentioned above, nothing will utilise the extra power?

$800 for this system, even with shipping, is a budget way over what is required:



CPU: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115077

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128540

Memory: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145218

Hard Drive: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840

PSU: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256060

Case: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042

Comes out to ~$480 after rebates AND shipping

If you really wanted 8GB (Not worth it for the uses), throw it in and add another few $ on there. Can put the Samsung F3 in there, but the extra cost for the drive and then shipping, it is a great drive, but I wouldn't pay the extra.

You have the Ferrari's others were posting, this is a Ford, but your parents will only ever take it to 40MPH. You will not be able to tell the difference in speed if you are in the Ford or the Ferrari.

The only other thing I would maybe recommend, though it is not essential, is to throw an SSD in there to really speed up the load and boot times.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233206

+ ~ $160 to the total cost

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You can even through the monitor in there if you really want:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254058

or

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009374CVF


Have you factored in the cost for the operating system by the way? Unless you are going Linux, you will have to buy Windows, unless you previously bought a retail version for their old system
 
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There he is!

Pretty sure the PS was on sale at the time, and, gaming was mentioned and it was mentioned some things, 'depending on the gaming/games. And what about the video editing? To what extent is that? Maybe that doesn't matter much, but lets get all the facts.

Something was better than nothing -
 
Operating System is free. My father works for a non-profit organization that is given free software by the government all the time so there is no need to worry about that. Sorry about infrequent posts, I'm in the middle of studying for my exams.

I know the budget is high for what they want so I've been trying to figure out what I can slip into it that they might not need but could still use. I agree that they wont need a GPU but I'm just curious whether the i3's integrated GPU is satisfactory for random possibilities. For instance, if they have a get together with friends who have a child and he wants to play a video game on the computer what kind of games could it run?

They don't do any hardcore video editing. They just like to organize footage from events, vacations, etc so that we can send it to friends/family.

Does everyone agree that 400W is sufficient for a no-GPU build? I know 8GB RAM is too much for their demands but for $20 extra I might as well get it and if they don't need it I can add it to my own computer when I upgrade.

Very nice case btw Aastii and great price.
 
Actually for what they will be doing a AMD Socket FM1 Llano would be perfect. But since Trinity is coming out soon, it will be on socket FM2. The socket FM1 is pretty much a dead end. But there not upgrading for a few years, which it sounds like they wouldnt it doesnt really matter. A decent FM1 board and a quad Llano would be perfect.
 
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My recomendation (I do not care what GPU you use i just threw that in there to give you an idea)-
i3 2120
gtx 560 super clocked
MOBO
8gb 1600mhz RAM
650w full modular psu
1tb 6bg/s HDD
cooler master storm scout case
Bulk dvd drive
Grand total of ~796$
This is a rough example of something i think you should do, you can easily go cheap on the gpu and increase ram if you wanted or something. I haven't looked at intel Mother boards in a while either so you should double check that aswell. I do know that the i3 2120 is a solid cpu and can easily handle most video games you through at it, given you have a decent GPU. (that GPU is just something random i threw in its still a solid GPU though)
 
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They don't plan to use it for gaming ndame. 650W for a regular use build is WAY overkill. Max they'd ever need is 400W. Modular isn't needed either. I definitely agree with StrangeHold that an APU build is what they need.

Also, @ OP: Download speeds are determined by your internet provider. The computer has no correlation to that.
 
azeem40 said:
They don't plan to use it for gaming ndame. 650W for a regular use build is WAY overkill. Max they'd ever need is 400W. Modular isn't needed either. I definitely agree with StrangeHold that an APU build is what they need.
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I agree an APU build would do just fine for there needs. I was simply offering an alternative solution. I also don't see the point in spending 800$ on an APU build. Also in the rare case that they wanted to do something a bit graphic intensive or if a kid in the house needed to render a sketch for class in a program like autodesk inventor, revit architectural design program, autocad and so on, That would be very capable of handling those tasks.
Also I realize a 650w psu is overkill I was just filling the budget, as i said it was a rough layout for a computer build. I know there is room for improvement in the build i just slapped that together in like 5-10 min to give him an idea.
 
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TheDixieFlatline said:
Operating System is free. My father works for a non-profit organization that is given free software by the government all the time so there is no need to worry about that. Sorry about infrequent posts, I'm in the middle of studying for my exams.

I know the budget is high for what they want so I've been trying to figure out what I can slip into it that they might not need but could still use. I agree that they wont need a GPU but I'm just curious whether the i3's integrated GPU is satisfactory for random possibilities. For instance, if they have a get together with friends who have a child and he wants to play a video game on the computer what kind of games could it run?

They don't do any hardcore video editing. They just like to organize footage from events, vacations, etc so that we can send it to friends/family.

Does everyone agree that 400W is sufficient for a no-GPU build? I know 8GB RAM is too much for their demands but for $20 extra I might as well get it and if they don't need it I can add it to my own computer when I upgrade.

Very nice case btw Aastii and great price.
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For gaming, it will play games on low settings. If you wanted it better I wouldn't go and spend a shed load "just incase". You can get a low/mid range card and it will play any and all games on at least medium settings. That is for the latest games, but if they are only playing low end or old games, there is no point in getting anything more. What sort of games are we talking about?

At the time of posting this Newegg.ca is down so I can't post anything you could use, but you want to be looking for an ATI HD7750 or an Nvidia GTX 450 if they happen to be playing any newer games.

The power supply will be plenty for the system I posted I guarentee, if you throw a video card in there then feel free to up it to a 450 or 500W just for safety's sake. It will not pull that much, it is just for head room.

Alternatively, wait a few weeks for Intel Ivy Bridge to come out and get an Ivy Bridge i3 build. It has a better onboard GPU so will be both quicker at processing than the Sandy Bridge i3 due to newer CPU architecture and it will be enough to play the games without the need for a dedicated graphics card, reducing price.
 
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