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Aastii

Aastii

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I am close to throwing my system out of the window, I am so sick of it now.

It keeps hanging, BSODing or not booting at times (always POSTs though). Seems to happen mostly when gaming, or straight after it has last done it. I have taken off all overclocks and clocked my memory down to 1333MHz (higher isn't officially supported by AM3, took it out as a just incase)

I have tried:

  • Using Windows 7, that is where it started
  • went back to Vista, still happened
  • went to XP x32, still doing it
  • ran memtest (some problems, will explain later)
  • ran HD Tune, again, some problems
  • reinstalled all drivers several times
  • Running Ubuntu from the disc, it hung whilest starting it up

With memtest, initially it failed straight away, so I removed both sticks and tested them individually, both came back without any problem, so I installed both sticks again, and they passed 17 hours running.

I changed the memtest config though, and with Memory Sizing to Bios - All, many errors come up in a very short space of time. I am aware that any setting but Bios - Std can cause instability with testing, but with Probe, my computer goes doo lally, screen changes colours and nothing happens but having random blocks of colour on screen, it doesn't display errors, the test just mucks up.

I ran HD Tune rather than the Samsung utility because there isn't a 64 bit version of the Samsung HDD utility, so I couldn't use it. Because it would only happen when my hard drive is having to access data, I thought if it hung or BSODed whilst running HD Tune, which puts the drive under stress, it would probably be that, so I ran it, and what do you know, straight away a BSOD. However, I ran it again after reinstalling Vista, and it passed fine.

I then, after installing XP x32, tried to use the Samsung utility, and it doesn't work. The cmd box comes up, then closes straight away and nothing happens.

I can't test my video card, the other desktop in the house has a crap PSU, and the motherboard connector is smaller than standard ATX, so I can't use my PSU on it. I could plug the PCIe cable in from my PSU, however I wouldn't trust the other unit with taking the extra load of having to supply some of the power to the PCIe lane. However, because I have had the hanging occur when windows is starting, ubuntu starting and browsing the internet too, when things aren't exactly graphicsally intensive, I very very much doubt it is that.
 
bomberboysk said:
If you have been failing memtest...indications are probably pretty good that your memory is bad.
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see now that is what I thought, but what threw me off is that 17 hours pass after reinstalling it, would indicate a pass, but then a hell of alot of fails with Bios - All, however how much is down to how systems work and the flaws with that test, and how much is down to the memory being bad, I'm not sure.

I just thought, I didn't try with those settings with the individual sticks. Giving that a try now.

Another thought occurs, the problems occur more frequently the longer the system has been without formatting. For instance, when I first reinstalled Vista, it was stable for around 36 hours, then it started up again, and got more and more frequent, and less likely the system would boot into windows. That again would lead me to think it was memory, or would be the hard drive, as any other component wouldn't progressively get worse, but better with a fresh OS on
 
Aastii said:
see now that is what I thought, but what threw me off is that 17 hours pass after reinstalling it, would indicate a pass, but then a hell of alot of fails with Bios - All, however how much is down to how systems work and the flaws with that test, and how much is down to the memory being bad, I'm not sure.

I just thought, I didn't try with those settings with the individual sticks. Giving that a try now.

Another thought occurs, the problems occur more frequently the longer the system has been without formatting. For instance, when I first reinstalled Vista, it was stable for around 36 hours, then it started up again, and got more and more frequent, and less likely the system would boot into windows. That again would lead me to think it was memory, or would be the hard drive, as any other component wouldn't progressively get worse, but better with a fresh OS on
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That could indicate some type of hard drive error as well, but you shouldnt be failing memtest if its a hard drive error. If you have another hard drive you can install to, take out one of the variables and see if its still unstable.
 
bomberboysk said:
That could indicate some type of hard drive error as well, but you shouldnt be failing memtest if its a hard drive error. If you have another hard drive you can install to, take out one of the variables and see if its still unstable.
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I just ran the 2 sticks individually and both failed with the Bios - All test in the exact same way that it did with 2 sticks installed, so I am sure it is the type of test, rather than the memory causing the erros.

The only hard drives I have are my old one, which I'm not sure if it is dead or not, but near certain, all problems I had stopped once I got my new drive, and the one in my mums systems. To use that though, I will have to convince her to let me back up all her photos on the external drive (which she should be doing anyway but isn't :rolleyes:) and format it to use in mine for a few days to see.

Does anyone have any ideas as to why the Samsung utility wouldn't be working for me though, even though I am now on a 32 bit OS (for now)? That has really stumped me, because it should be working, not just closing itself down straight away
 
Samsungtest.jpg


Managed, with great difficulty as it stayed for only a very very split second, to get a SS of it, ideas anyone?
 
Aastii said:
I am close to throwing my system out of the window, I am so sick of it now.

It keeps hanging, BSODing or not booting at times (always POSTs though). Seems to happen mostly when gaming, or straight after it has last done it. I have taken off all overclocks and clocked my memory down to 1333MHz (higher isn't officially supported by AM3, took it out as a just incase)

I have tried:

  • Using Windows 7, that is where it started
  • went back to Vista, still happened
  • went to XP x32, still doing it
  • ran memtest (some problems, will explain later)
  • ran HD Tune, again, some problems
  • reinstalled all drivers several times
  • Running Ubuntu from the disc, it hung whilest starting it up

With memtest, initially it failed straight away, so I removed both sticks and tested them individually, both came back without any problem, so I installed both sticks again, and they passed 17 hours running.

I changed the memtest config though, and with Memory Sizing to Bios - All, many errors come up in a very short space of time. I am aware that any setting but Bios - Std can cause instability with testing, but with Probe, my computer goes doo lally, screen changes colours and nothing happens but having random blocks of colour on screen, it doesn't display errors, the test just mucks up.

I ran HD Tune rather than the Samsung utility because there isn't a 64 bit version of the Samsung HDD utility, so I couldn't use it. Because it would only happen when my hard drive is having to access data, I thought if it hung or BSODed whilst running HD Tune, which puts the drive under stress, it would probably be that, so I ran it, and what do you know, straight away a BSOD. However, I ran it again after reinstalling Vista, and it passed fine.

I then, after installing XP x32, tried to use the Samsung utility, and it doesn't work. The cmd box comes up, then closes straight away and nothing happens.

I can't test my video card, the other desktop in the house has a crap PSU, and the motherboard connector is smaller than standard ATX, so I can't use my PSU on it. I could plug the PCIe cable in from my PSU, however I wouldn't trust the other unit with taking the extra load of having to supply some of the power to the PCIe lane. However, because I have had the hanging occur when windows is starting, ubuntu starting and browsing the internet too, when things aren't exactly graphicsally intensive, I very very much doubt it is that.
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Aastii,

Try using the latest UBUNTU 10.4. You can bring the CD to your house. Its free of charge. Right now I am using Ubuntu 9.10. Well I brought it 8 months ago. Follow this link. http://www.ubuntu.com/

Hope that helps;)

Regards
Naishadh
 
naishadh99 said:
Aastii,

Try using the latest UBUNTU 10.4. You can bring the CD to your house. Its free of charge. Right now I am using Ubuntu 9.10. Well I brought it 8 months ago. Follow this link. http://www.ubuntu.com/

Hope that helps;)

Regards
Naishadh
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Thanks for the response, but I already have Ubuntu and have tried it, like I said

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oh and btw, samsung utility came back without problems after 2 tests (5 hours between them), so I think that can now be ruled out
 
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