Computer Upgrade (HD Video Editing Help)

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stevethedream1

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Hello,

I am trying to edit an hd video file (MTS) in sony vegas. I just got a new HD camera so I was unaware that HD files required a somewhat decent computer to edit. I can play the file and see it ok but it just runs wayyy to slow and choppy. What I'm asking is what do you think I need to upgrade to be able to edit HD video with this computer. I dont need it to be able to play games or anything to crazy. I just want to be able to edit HD videos. I have been told by a few people that a new CPU is more important than a graphics card. If it is at all possible to upgrade my pc rather than buying a whole new system that is definitly the route I would like to take as I am really strapped for cash. What are your oppinions based on the following info:


Thanks for your help, It is very much appreciated!



Intel Pentium Dual Core CPU 2.80 GHZ Subscore: 4.7
Memory: 2.00 GB Subscore:5.7
Graphics: Radeon x600 Subscore: 4.3
Gaming Graphics: 1019 MB total available graphics memory Subscore: 3.7
Dedicated graphics memory: 256 MB
Primary Hard Disk C: 17GB Free of 128GB total Subscore:5.7
Secondary Disk E: 518 GB free out of 571
System type: 32 bit operating system 64-bit capable
 
There are a lot of 775 CPU's that will work in what your doing, but the question is will your Motherboard handle Core 2 Duo or quad? What motherboard are you using and what size is your case and power supply?

I am thinking you could go with a Q9550
a E7600

The best thing to get would not work with your Motherboard for sure,
Intel Core i7-2700K It may be gone fast. It doesn't spend much time in stock so you can go with a
Intel Core i5-2500K ( 7.6)

or Intel Core i7-2600

If price is a factor AMD 6 core cpu have had success in the past with video editing. (My 1090T sub score of 7.5)

I suggest something form i5/i7 because you are not interested in more than one GPU. The price to performance is good. The best cpu to use is Intel Core i7-39xx-(x)
Windows CPU rating does not mean a whole lot.
 
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strait forward it will be better to build a new computer. The 775 socket is dead (as is 1366 and 1156 that replaced them), and thus is expensive to replace.

You will need a new OS too, a 64 Bit one as video editing is hell on RAM, 8+ GB is what I would recommend. You need a somewhat good GPU (video card), something like a GTS450/GTX550ti/HD5770/HD6770 or better, and a good CPU. The 2500k or 2600k is your best bet on a budget. As was said a Hex core AMD would be good too, but they are running out fast now.

I would however not recommend the i7-2700k as it is just a sales ploy. Bump the Multi on a 2600k by 1 and you have the 2700k. They are the exact same chip minus the 1 multiplier change.

the SB-e may be some advantage, but not worth the price difference. Its a good $300 for the cheapest SB-e processor currently. However there is hope around the corner with the quad core SB-e that is coming out soon. I know I say something about it in MaxiumPC, but I'm still looking for that article.

Basically, you need a new computer to do what you want to do well. It can be done on your system, but not cheaply. You will need a upgraded CPU, more RAM, a new OS ($100), and could do with a better GPU ($120 +).
If you have a lack of funds for it all, you should be able to get the GPU, a PSU (should ou need it) and overclock your current CPU to run this until you can afford a new CPU and motherboard.
 
Hmm, thats all a lot of info but by the sounds of things I guess a new computer is my best option.. Well I guess I better start saving. Perhaps the next best question is how much would it cost me to get a somewhat decent computer for editing videos and maybe a little gaming?

Thanks for the help gents!
 
Are you willing to build yourself? That will get you the best bang per dollar and the best quality.

It is not hard to build, and we can find you the best parts for your use within a budget if you need us to.
 
Thanks for the responce wolfeking . Im starting to think a new computer is the best option. I would infact be willing to build it myself or at least with the help of my father who knows a decent amount about computers. I wouldnt have a problem getting a legit copy of windows 7 aswell. I would hope that I dont have to spend much more than 500 bucks but maybe that isnt reasonable. Let me know if you have any ideas.

I would asume that I can still use my Dvd player, and hard drive. I also just put a new power supply in this PC. I dont know, maybe I have to build from the ground up. :confused:
 
DVD player and hard drive are transferable, and a good idea since hard drives prices have skyrocketed in the last few months. What make/model is the power supply and how many watts? I think you can squeeze an i5 2500k if you already have all the things you listed.
 
ok, 500 is pushing it. I am going to assume that you have a good PSU and a HDD and DVD drive that you can reuse. That will help a lot, as all you will need is a case, windows, CPU, motherboard, RAM, and GPU.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157279
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226179
and we are over budget. And you still need a case and video card. That will cost ~200 extra for good ones (GTX550ti/HD6870 and HAF912). i already minused 100 for windows (64bit OEM Home Premium), so you don't need to worry about that bit. if you could budget 800, then you would be able to get a better system.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226179 (RAM)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072 (CPU)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9 600083901 600083829&IsNodeId=1&maxPrice=200 (ATI GPU)
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127593 (Nvidia GPU)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271 (motherboard)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233&Tpk=haf 912 (case)
I already again budgeted for windows, but I didn't look it up. It is 100 always, so I just budget it out ahead of time.
 
He could rebuild using his old case with the MOBO you suggested IF the case he has can provide good airflow and also accept a normal sized ATX MOBO. You can use a Power switch cable or reconfigure your plug. Its not as cool as the HAF 912. How much is newegg paying you to sell these i5's and HAF912's??

You can build something under $500, the build you suggest is good but without Windows its about $686.95 without any shipping if it applied. (approximately $30) Flirting close to a $800 build.
 
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like your getting paid to sell X58 and X79 based systems.

I promote the 2500k because it is the best in the price range. Hyperthreading is not really helpful in performance in most programs.
The HAF is a good case. One of the best in its price range peroid. If you don't know whats good and what works, as well as how computers work and perform, as some of your post suggest, then don't comment like you do.

He sounds like he has never built before. This means that he probably has a OEM case. Those cases suck donkey for airflow, and the cables will be proprietary, making it difficult to use on a ATX motherboard.
 
You don't have to be sensitive. I only suggest those for programs that can benefit from the technology. That and the sandy bridge only supports 24 pcie lanes of bandwith. If you want SLI/Crossfire sandy is not your best choice.The i5 is a awesome CPU as is anything i3 and above to include i7 920. I have built hundreds of real systems for money. The x79 is a awesome system If you can afford it. In this case you don't have to have an overclockable CPU.
If you look close at the power pannel below the debug screen you see it is a 9 wire format that is comparable with HP/compaq power plug. At the end of the wire there are little plastic flaps that hold the wire in place. Pull those out gently and the wire will come out. Then you can rearrange them to match the MOBO you chose. Don't forget I also suggest AMD 6 core and 4 core CPU's as well.
 
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look, you can have a billion PCI-e lanes, it wont make a bit of difference. The most the average computer user will use is between 16 and 17, 20 if they have a x4 device like a RAID card, or PCIe SSD.

and 24 is plenty of lanes for CF or SLI. x8 will not drop performance by a noticeable amount.
 
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Thats common knowledge. I believe in "its better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it." Every build on this website but one has been budget below $500 so its mostly useless to keep talking about it. If your broke your broke. That is why eMachines sell so well.
 
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emachines sell well not due to price. There are HPs Dells and Acers in the same low price range. Emachines sell well because they are sold at walmart and bought by people that think that the system they just bought is a "CPU" or that by deleting teh blue E for internet explorer that they deleted the internet.

Unless you are going for a complete overkill gaming build, then SB is all you need. Even in gaming you are not going to see that much of a difference.
There seems to be a system shootout going on in the unigineheaven thread, how bout we get a 16/16 build with the i7-39**k and put it up against one of the x16/x8 builds that is already there and see of you get $600 worth of performance gain.

and since you mentioned AMD, a 990FX board can run 16/16 CF and SLI, but their processors will fall behind. I think it is somewhere in the end of 4.5+GHz phenom iix4 to catch a 2500 stock. Heck, the i3-2100 will compete nicely with a 965 and I am pretty sure the i3 is slower clocked.
 
Yes you are correct, the AMD phenom ii x6 has 42 lanes of pci-e bandwidth. And the 890FX cards can run x16/x16/.
But the advantage is longevity. Use with AutoCAD however you could also throw in the Firepro as well if you care to inter that realm. Basically it doesn't mater what you discuss.
I am not saying your wrong in any way but I will say that SLI/crossfire is not much different than upgrading to a "enthusiast" CPU platform. In my opinion only an enthusiast would upgrade to SLI/crossfire, and there is nothing wrong with it. Until you throw $200 in monitors at a $1200 Crossfire setup.

If bandwidth of one PCI-e3.0 = 2 PCI-e2.0 this discussion is worthless. But proves your ASRock Mobo more valuable as it offers 2 x16 PCI-e 3.0 With an Ivy bridge CPU it would = Triple crossfire @ x16 which means on the IVy bridge CPU 2 PCI-e 3.0 would = quad crossfire at x16.
 
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Gary1 said:
Yes you are correct, the AMD phenom ii x6 has 42 lanes of pci-e bandwidth. And the 890FX cards can run x16/x16/.
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The Phenom II X6 doesnt have 42 PCIe lanes and I have never heard of a 890FX video card. The 890FX chipset has 42 PCIe lanes, but 4 of them are for A Link Express lanes and can run two cards in 16X/16X.
 
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Sorry he was talking about 990FX boards and so was I,

I am fully aware that the 890FX is a chipset,as I am a seldom user of a GA 890FXA-UD5. I mistakenly said CARD.
 
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no, what he is saying is that it is a chipset, not a card. Also AMD processors do not have the PCI controller like Intel does. They still use the North and South bridge setup, where intel has integrated most of the north bridge functions onto the CPU die.
 
Yes I got that fella, and its correct, I had forgotten that. It kinda happens but I was agreeing with you. I said I was done a few post ago. AMD is a weaker brand today, and to keep up with old tech is boring. Quit being a fag, but all I am saying on this thread is in some places even the x58 has it's benefits. Diverting to a mistake I made about AMD isn't going to change that. If Ivy Bridge is what intel says it is, it will change a little about what is being said here. And AMD will probably be set back even further, hope not but if they are it would be worthless to even discuss AMD unless your talking graphics. It is possible AMD can pull something out there ass. but we will see.

Regardless where the PCI-e lanes are, they are there. the point is it will run x16/x16.
 
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