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I disagree myself. PC is superior to console in every possible way but one. Graphics/Quality/Controls/upgrades/etc you name it and the PC is superior. The only downside is we can't run 360/Wii/PS3 games........yet. Then again though PC gaming is becoming so much like console gaming it really doesn't matter anymore. The main reason that made PC so much better is dying.

For that reason I hate most "casual" gamers (consoles mainly to blame here) as they ruined the gaming market by buying games like Halo/COD/MOH each time a reskin came out. It taught the gaming companies that people are easily amused and milked for cash and they didn't have to try hard anymore on their games. Over time it became a rehash market and in the process like 80% of the great companies sold out and make stupid button mashers with no real gameplay or quality. I mean its all about graphics now and they wonder why they lose sales...sure piracy is a bit of a problem but people like myself I don't buy games anymore unless they are REALLY worth it or I get them dirt cheap.

Right. How dare I enjoy my games. Luckily, I live in America. Go make your own country and form a PC game only country. That's completely fascist.

You realize that if the gaming community went your way, that games would not be even close to as profitable, and thus gaming would most likely cease to exist?

Why would you even blame any gamers for the games we have now? That would be the developers fault, for creating a terrible game. You must be one those peeps that has a picture of Cuba's dictator hanging on their wall, and believe everyone should do as you say. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but holy snap man, your post was sickening.

I love it when an awesome game comes out, because it is a rarity, but I enjoy most games. That's what a true gamer is. Someone who enjoys themselves and truly attempts to have fun with it. A dictator-gamer is someone who believes that all games should be made the way he/ she wants them, which is absurd, because everyone enjoys different games. In a more realistic sense, each platform has their very distinct advantages. Look around the web for real facts on PC vs. console, not just fascist or dictator-like posts.
 
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I said that differently than I meant to.

PC = Better community like person to person
Console = More people/certain game

I still strongly disagree. Online, most games you only need ~8 people to play, and you get more than that on both. But, console gamers tend to move onto the next game when it comes out and forget about their old ones, where as PC gamers actually play their games. You can go on nearly any PC game from the last 5-10 years and there will still be a large number of people online. The number playing when it first came out? Absolutely not, but still a fair number of people. Go on to a console and play a game from when said console came out and there will probably not even be enough people to play the game with.

The only time I don't play my PC games for any length of time is if I buy a game on a whim because it is cheap, like most of my Steam games with an average purchase price of £6 per game. The only game I have bought in the last 3 years for more than £20 was CoD4, and when you get 900 hours (so far) out of a game, those double figures were worth it

Right. How dare I enjoy my games. Luckily, I live in America. Go make your own country and form a PC game only country. That's completely fascist.

You realize that if the gaming community went your way, that games would not be even close to as profitable, and thus gaming would most likely cease to exist?

Why would you even blame any gamers for the games we have now? That would be the developers fault, for creating a terrible game. You must be one those peeps that has a picture of Cuba's dictator hanging on their wall, and believe everyone should do as you say. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but holy snap man, your post was sickening.

I love it when an awesome game comes out, because it is a rarity, but I enjoy most games. That's what a true gamer is. Someone who enjoys themselves and truly attempts to have fun with it. A dictator-gamer is someone who believes that all games should be made the way he/ she wants them, which is absurd, because everyone enjoys different games. In a more realistic sense, each platform has their very distinct advantages. Look around the web for real facts on PC vs. console, not just fascist or dictator-like posts.

He himself stated an opinion. To call him a dictator and a fascist for it is completely out of order. He didn't say you don't enjoy it, he said most console and casual gamers will move on to the next thing straight away even if it is an awful game, and in doing such they are saying to the devs "this is fine, carry on" which is wrong and I agree with that.

You look back to pre-console when gaming was a niche thing because a PC was more expensive then, games were a hell of a lot better and original. Now though the vast majority of games are just remakes of previous games but generally prettier, but with less actual content to it. People want shinies and collectables, not good gameplay, a good story, good replayability. They want the game to amuse them for a couple of months until they can go and buy another game, and this is exactly what the companies are aiming towards.

Now notice the word companies, that is what developers are, a company, and like any company they work on 2 principles - supply and demand and lowest cost for highest profit. They have the demand for disposable games, and are supplying them, and they are putting as little time, effort and money in, but still making the same or greater amounts of money. They aren't some saints that listen to their community, at least most aren't, just look at Activision to see that, what they do is a job and they want money.

If most consumers demanded higher quality by not buying games that are clearly just remakes and didn't buy games for the sake of it and instead waited to see the game without buying, form an opinion and if it falls below expectations don't buy it and don't fund the companies. Enough do it and eventually they will have to change their business model to give higher quality.

Take CoD blops as an example, people were genuinely surprised it was a remake, and a bad one at that. When MW3 comes out, they will again act shocked, but it will just be more of the same, and the reason for that is exactly what I just said, they know people will buy it anyway, and then complain it is a bad game. I'm not saying everybody disliked it, I'm saying from speaking to people, and the general consensus, the majority disliked it.

Go and look at a company such as Valve or Blizzard. They won't release a game for years, but when they do the end product is a work of art, in the same way other entertainment media are. They aren't there just to pass time on, they are there to fully enjoy. The fact that Blizzard are a child of the same parent company as Activision just adds to the amazement that Activision have a completely opposite approach to games to Blizzard. Blizzard know that they have the MMO market wrapped up with WoW, yet each expansion always adds huge amounts of content and new things to do, and even patches do.

Notice too that the two companies mentioned, Blizzard and Valve, develop mainly for PC. The "great" games of the last decade - WoW, Half Life, Counter Strike, Diablo, Starcraft, Portal, all are from those 2 companies.

Look at another phenomenon - Minecraft. Again, from the PC, but from an indie company that do listen to their community, and it is a masterpiece of a game, even though it is still only a beta, and it is hugely original.

What do consoles have? CoD, Halo, God of War. They are just sequels upon sequels, all of which are so similar to the last game, they may have just patched it or made it DLC rather than a new game, but they know that people will pay for it, even though they effectively have the game already
 
So very true Asati, I doubt anyone could have worded it any better then you just did.


Also on Minecraft they CLAIM by the time the game is finished it will have sold as many copies as World of Warcraft initial release (so around 5-8 million possibly more) Its atm over 1 million copies sold in BETA. I think Minecraft is 1 year old atm this is very impressive for a indie game. This is not even including all the clones/cell apps that spawned from it. This is just on the PC side.
 
So very true Asati, I doubt anyone could have worded it any better then you just did.


Also on Minecraft they CLAIM by the time the game is finished it will have sold as many copies as World of Warcraft initial release (so around 5-8 million possibly more) Its atm over 1 million copies sold in BETA. I think Minecraft is 1 year old atm this is very impressive for a indie game. This is not even including all the clones/cell apps that spawned from it. This is just on the PC side.

They are making it on the iPhone, as in an official one, not a copy like Eden, and there have been rumours that they are potentially making a console version, however, I don't think it would work too well on a console

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In a more realistic sense, each platform has their very distinct advantages. Look around the web for real facts on PC vs. console, not just fascist or dictator-like posts.

I'm just wondering, in what way is a console better than a PC (other than being cheaper and being able to support 4 players at once).

I've seen plenty of PC vs. Console discussions. Not one has convinced me that consoles even approach gaming PCs.
 
I prefer console gaming. My personal reasoning is primarily ease of use, and secondarily cost. I like being able to pop a disc in, go though no setup process and (generally) not have to worry about any performance issues. I also like that if I want to take my console somewhere, I can fit everything I need into a backpack with plenty of room to spare.

Anyway, here is my summation of the of PC vs Console

Console Gaming:
-Ease of Use
-Reliability
-Cost
-Much Better Market for Used Games
-Bigger Selection of Big Name Titles
-Relative Portability
-Larger Player Base
-No Ridiculous DRM
-Local Multiplayer


PC Gaming:
-User Created Content
-Much Higher Performance Potential
-Keyboard/Mouse vs Dual Analog Controller
-Larger Player Base for Older Games
-MMORPG and RTS Games
-Bigger Variation in I/O Devices (Controllers/Monitors)
-Gaming PC Has a Lot More Non-Gaming Uses Than a Console
 
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