Cooling issue's

jon76

jon76

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Hi all, I have a Cooler Master Silencio 550 case, which up until now has been fine, but just then when I was playing Civ 4, I noticed a high pitch ringing sound, so I opened the case and the noise stopped, so I turned off the computer and tried to remove the fan and heat sink only to find they were stuck, I finally wedged it loose to find the cpu was stuck to it, managed to get that off and got what I think must be thermal paste on my fingers, put it back together and it is now working, although I am leaving the side panel off for now, is this because of the case as I was just thinking it doesn't look great for ventliation, also is it possible I have cause damage to the cpu/motherboard?
 
If you didn't clean all the old thermal paste from the cpu and heatsink, then reapply new before you put it back together,,,then it will surely overheat and you should not run your computer till you do so.
 
Benny Boy said:
If you didn't clean all the old thermal paste from the cpu and heatsink, then reapply new before you put it back together,,,then it will surely overheat and you should not run your computer till you do so.
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This will be the first time I have applied thermal paste, I will give it a go, I did put it together and carry on playing civ for an hour or 2 with the case open and had no problems, but it's surely just a matter of time, would you say the fact the case has sound insulation is causing problems?
 
yep!
a small grain in the middle and it will spread automatically by placing the heatsink on it :P.

(I do first a very very little grain on it spread it with a creditcard, but a ver very little layer. Then I do the grain in the middle. But shouldn't do that, because there is much chance you'll applie to much then. But if you can it's the best cooling solution)
 
jon76 said:
I did put it together and carry on playing civ for an hour or 2 with the case open and had no problems.
would you say the fact the case has sound insulation is causing problems?
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Does "no problems" mean you monitored the temps using something like PC Wizard/Core Temp? Because it can run hotter than it should w/o crashing. You have air pockets/voids in the paste now. I wouldn't run it w/o correcting the paste.

It isn't the sound dampening for the original higher overall temps. Its the fans and lack of, that CoolerMaster used.

Correct the paste.
Remove the upper drive cage if you can.
I would get 3 high CFM/low noise fans.
Or, 2 high CFM and move a stock fan to the front/bottom.
Keep your filters/HSF/etc clean.
 
Benny Boy said:
Does "no problems" mean you monitored the temps using something like PC Wizard/Core Temp? Because it can run hotter than it should w/o crashing. You have air pockets/voids in the paste now. I wouldn't run it w/o correcting the paste.

It isn't the sound dampening for the original higher overall temps. Its the fans and lack of, that CoolerMaster used.

Correct the paste.
Remove the upper drive cage if you can.
I would get 3 high CFM/low noise fans.
Or, 2 high CFM and move a stock fan to the front/bottom.
Keep your filters/HSF/etc clean.
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Hi, thanks for the help, I did not monitor the temperature, but to be fair it didn't crash before, I have a feeling that high pitch ringing sound had been going on for quite a while before I turned the volume down and realised it was the computer, when I realised I turned it off. I have bought the thermal paste today and haven't used the computer since. I will look into the fans you have suggested, cooling is one of my weakest area's as I have just learned as I have been building computers, but I always like learning more so it's all good, would it be financially viable to get all the fans or would I be better off getting a better case with fans included
 
FuryRosewood said:
You may have applied too much goop? A little bit in the middle of the cpu die is all you need.
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The thermal paste actually came pre-applied, so this will be the first time I apply it, but thanks as the info will obviously come i handy when I come to do it
 
The interior features on your current case, other than the cooling solutions CM sent it out with, seems good. So just depends on how much you like it. If you like it, 3x 120mm at about 70CFM would lower inside case temps around 15c.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MM7Oci3-h0

Another option would be to also incorporate a 140mm fan to the top of the case. Not very hard to do.
And if you wanted to go farther yet, and to make it quieter, put another fan in the bottom (if there's room for a 120). With another fan at the top and the bottom you could use slower/quieter fans everywhere and the cooling would be excellent.

So just depends on what you want. 3 higher speed fans should work well.

Reguardless, if you are using the stock AMD cooler a 3rd party HSF would help dissapate the heat. An allin1 liquid cooler would too.
 
Benny Boy said:
The interior features on your current case, other than the cooling solutions CM sent it out with, seems good. So just depends on how much you like it. If you like it, 3x 120mm at about 70CFM would lower inside case temps around 15c.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MM7Oci3-h0

Another option would be to also incorporate a 140mm fan to the top of the case. Not very hard to do.
And if you wanted to go farther yet, and to make it quieter, put another fan in the bottom (if there's room for a 120). With another fan at the top and the bottom you could use slower/quieter fans everywhere and the cooling would be excellent.

So just depends on what you want. 3 higher speed fans should work well.

Reguardless, if you are using the stock AMD cooler a 3rd party HSF would help dissapate the heat. An allin1 liquid cooler would too.
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Thanks for that, I actually do like the case, the main reason I got it is because it looks nice and because it is set up next to the tv in the living room so it is connected to the surround system and t.v a gaming case wouldn't look as good, it does have a stock heatsink and fan which does look a bit poor when I look at some of the others, for some reason I am put off water cooling, just can't get my head round water and electrics, obviously it must be safe or they wouldn't use it, will probably stick to air cooling though
 
Benny Boy said:
Does "no problems" mean you monitored the temps using something like PC Wizard/Core Temp? Because it can run hotter than it should w/o crashing. You have air pockets/voids in the paste now. I wouldn't run it w/o correcting the paste.

It isn't the sound dampening for the original higher overall temps. Its the fans and lack of, that CoolerMaster used.

Correct the paste.
Remove the upper drive cage if you can.
I would get 3 high CFM/low noise fans.
Or, 2 high CFM and move a stock fan to the front/bottom.
Keep your filters/HSF/etc clean.
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I have removed the upper hard drive cage as you suggested, it does look as if it would improve airflow, I have corrected the paste, can't afford fans just yet, I turned it on and went into bios, the cpu was at 56 degrees c and slowly creeping up, the system temperature was at 30 degrees c, considering it says the warning temperature is 60 degrees c that's surely bad, but I am not sure what temperature it should run at but the computer had not been used in a while and was hardly being pushed at the time, wondering if I have applied the paste incorrectly, could that cause the issue
 
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Benny Boy said:
Does "no problems" mean you monitored the temps using something like PC Wizard/Core Temp? Because it can run hotter than it should w/o crashing. You have air pockets/voids in the paste now. I wouldn't run it w/o correcting the paste.

It isn't the sound dampening for the original higher overall temps. Its the fans and lack of, that CoolerMaster used.

Correct the paste.
Remove the upper drive cage if you can.
I would get 3 high CFM/low noise fans.
Or, 2 high CFM and move a stock fan to the front/bottom.
Keep your filters/HSF/etc clean.
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I just downloaded pc wizard and it shows all the separate cores all around 35 degrees c, yet bios was showing it as one temperature at what was previously nearly 60 and now at about 50, is bios incorrect?
 
I have re applied thermal paste again following something I read that said if you have to pull off the heat sink you should start the process again, if I am honest I have still probably not done it the best as I used toilet roll to clean it off, but that's all I had to hand, I do plan to get some alcohol solution and cotton swabs when I get paid and do it properly, however the cpu is now down to 45 degrees c in bios, much better but not good enough I am thinking and it still crashes in windows, just been thinking is it possible there is a virus causing my cpu to be a high load and possibly causing this whole problem
 
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I believe I have solved my heating issue's, I changed my case to the Cooler master HAF 922, the results are impressive, cpu is now down to 32 degrees C at idle with a stock heat sink and fan, I might at some point replace the heat sink and fan, but for now I think this should do, thanks everyone for the suggestions, I plan to build a computer using the old case and parts from mine as I upgrade so might end up using the cooling suggestions for the old case
 
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Yep, true story. No matter how good your CPU heatsink is, if it emits that energy into a case without proper airflow, doesn't matter how good your thermal paste is.
 
bigfellla said:
Yep, true story. No matter how good your CPU heatsink is, if it emits that energy into a case without proper airflow, doesn't matter how good your thermal paste is.
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Another lesson learned I think, I am slowly getting better. Also, I just noticed I put heating problems and not cooling problems, perhaps I should get it a new jumper, winter is on it's way after all!
 
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