i was wondering if theres a program that lets you monitor the cpu while ingame i want to see if thats whats causing my freezing or not so far the graphics card isnt overheating but im really not sure what the problem could be i dont think its cpu but then you never know til you run all the test possible
CPU monitoring program
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Twist86
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Best way to test your CPU is to torture it with a program like Prime95/Orthos Prime/CPU Burn (gotta run 1 application per core on CPU burn)
Prime95 will tell you within a hour if its your CPU or not. If your @ 2.66ghz though id say its not.
http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=205
Prime95 will tell you within a hour if its your CPU or not. If your @ 2.66ghz though id say its not.
http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=205
CrayonMuncher
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Hsv_Man
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You should download a program called Real temp it runs on the desktop and runs constantly till you shut the program off this will tell you what temps you are getting in COD4 as the program measures and tells you the minimum and max temps aswell as the current temp of the cpu.
I use this program to monitor my CPU, RAM, and GPU temps.
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html
i just tried the cpuid program the hwmonitor it think it is and while i was playing cod4 i alt tabed out every now and then and noticed my cpu was at 73 celcius which i dont think is good but its a 90 degree day here so i think that could play a factor too but could that be what causes it to randomly lock up and freeze? is there any solution or do i need new heatsink cuz really i am using stock cooling and nothing is overclocked
Twist86
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Whats the temp in your room and are you running stock cooling (came with the chip) Also what case are you currently using?
Download a program called cpuz for me and tell me what your voltage is on your chip.
32 bit version - http://www.cpuid.com/downloads/cpu-z/1.54-32bits-en.zip
Screenshot of what your looking for.
80c is to high...if my chip passes 60c I start to figure out why and underclock to be safe.
bomberboysk
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Whats the temp in your room and are you running stock cooling (came with the chip) Also what case are you currently using?
Download a program called cpuz for me and tell me what your voltage is on your chip.
32 bit version - http://www.cpuid.com/downloads/cpu-z/1.54-32bits-en.zip
Screenshot of what your looking for.
80c is to high...if my chip passes 60c I start to figure out why and underclock to be safe.
80c is warm....these chips are rated by intel for temperatures higher than that, Q8xxx chips have a tjmax of 100c, and even on stock voltages/speeds and stock cooler, you could easily hit 85c under load. Yes, its hot, but the chips are able to run it, however you are going to slightly decrease life of the chip by running it at higher temperatures.
I can tell you right now...one thing you need to get rid of is that rubbish diablomax power supply, that is going to cause you issues both short and long term.
http://www.intel.com/support/processors/sb/CS-030615.htm
i went to this intel site but im not sure what the max temp for the cpu is so im not sure how to determine if i nearly am frying it when i run games and for voltage i used another program which says the voltage for the cpu is for value i was using hardware monitor to determin this the cpuid hardware montior says this 1.10 between that and 1.13 and for min 1.10 max 1.15 so i dont know what any of this means yet but i never changed any voltage or anything since i got this computer and havent overclocked it and yes im using stock cooling that came with this build the cpu i mean
and in my case i have temperature monitor which says its at 39.9 C in the case i believe so far i not sure how to tell how warm it is here but i know my room gets most of the sunlight where i live
also whats wrong with my power supply its got 36 amps on the 12 v rail that shouldnt be that bad
case is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144253
i went to this intel site but im not sure what the max temp for the cpu is so im not sure how to determine if i nearly am frying it when i run games and for voltage i used another program which says the voltage for the cpu is for value i was using hardware monitor to determin this the cpuid hardware montior says this 1.10 between that and 1.13 and for min 1.10 max 1.15 so i dont know what any of this means yet but i never changed any voltage or anything since i got this computer and havent overclocked it and yes im using stock cooling that came with this build the cpu i mean
and in my case i have temperature monitor which says its at 39.9 C in the case i believe so far i not sure how to tell how warm it is here but i know my room gets most of the sunlight where i live
also whats wrong with my power supply its got 36 amps on the 12 v rail that shouldnt be that bad
case is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144253
Twist86
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Well I would say this is the cooler at fault. Have you ever installed those crappy push pins before? If I had to guess it is not making great contact thus your having issues.
Read this and make sure your pins are accurate.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2047683 is a way you can try now that wont require you to have the above items.
If you still have issues you might want to try it my way and this has worked every time. What you need is the following.
1. Roll of duck tape
2. Screw Driver (flat head)
3. Remove your motherboard
4. No fear of what your about to do.
What you do is put the motherboards CPU "hole" inside the hole of the tape so that when you push the pin in NOTHING gets in its way...this both gives it strength and it allows the push pin to go all the way down.
Then you take the screwdriver and push down on the push pin till its all the way down....duck tape helps even out the pressure as well to avoid damaging your board but I warn you it will still bend a little because it takes a lot of effort to get those things in properly.
I find doing it inside your case the board will "bend" till it hits the tray so you wont get it all the way in correctly thus have gaps and thus cause horrible temps.
Most over heating issues with stock cooling with those are failure to get the pins all the way in correctly. I have the same issue when I first went to the new 775 socket with my Q6600...dropped my temps 20c because it was improperly put in.
Read this and make sure your pins are accurate.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2047683 is a way you can try now that wont require you to have the above items.
If you still have issues you might want to try it my way and this has worked every time. What you need is the following.
1. Roll of duck tape
2. Screw Driver (flat head)
3. Remove your motherboard
4. No fear of what your about to do.
What you do is put the motherboards CPU "hole" inside the hole of the tape so that when you push the pin in NOTHING gets in its way...this both gives it strength and it allows the push pin to go all the way down.
Then you take the screwdriver and push down on the push pin till its all the way down....duck tape helps even out the pressure as well to avoid damaging your board but I warn you it will still bend a little because it takes a lot of effort to get those things in properly.
I find doing it inside your case the board will "bend" till it hits the tray so you wont get it all the way in correctly thus have gaps and thus cause horrible temps.
Most over heating issues with stock cooling with those are failure to get the pins all the way in correctly. I have the same issue when I first went to the new 775 socket with my Q6600...dropped my temps 20c because it was improperly put in.
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well i put it in the shop when i had them rebuild it cuz i didnt mount it right so i figured id leave it up to the pros and so when i got it back it turned on and stayed on but after it was put together i looked in there and things looked fine but i dont know if there will be a better heatsink i can look into getting thats socket 775 is there a way i can get one from staples or somewhere close to me cuz i really will have to wait awhile b4 i can make a online purchase again
Twist86
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Just so I understand...your case has 3 active fans correct? If so I doubt @ 40c its a major issue of your case. I mean it could be lower depending on your room temp but nothing to worry about.
It is a quality remark is what he means. Bomberboysk is very PSU savy and has good advice to give.
To give you a example a Corsair 650w PSU gives 52a on the 12v rail. You must worry over the PSU because a under powered system with cheap parts can blow and kill everything in your system. Its one of the few parts you want to be picky with the most. He is just warning you up front that its a possible hazard to your system.
I would take it back and tell them the push pins are not all the way in and you want them to do the job you payed them for (don't pay again just raise a stink)
You will find as you learn more about computers the "pros" are idiots and the typical gamer will know more
Don't buy a cooler till your 100% sure its the problem
Also if you do buy a cooler BEWARE OF SIZE!!!!!! Most coolers will prevent you from having a side fan...or even shut your case side. My Xigmatek S1283 barley passes my Antec 900 case panel.oh i see well im gonna check the pins around the cpu later on where the heatsink fan rest to make sure nothing came loose by the way any idea on that cosair PSU lol i think i want it quality over quantity i always say umm i also was wondering about this heatsink i was looking at on tigerdirect but its pricy http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2353734&CatId=1588
would that be hard to work with?
would that be hard to work with?
Twist86
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Well it gives you quality + quantity
Corsair 650w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...005&cm_re=corsair_650w-_-17-139-005-_-Product
Add code EMCYTNR46 its $60 after shipping/rebate.
Also these were suggested to me in a recent thread I made by Bomber they are recertified but I have bought refurbs before without any problems.
600w OCZ
http://www.svc.com/ocz600gxssli-b.html
700w OCZ
http://www.svc.com/ocz700gxssli-b.html
I myself prefer corsair but was mighty tempted to buy the 700w for the price for another build but in the end didn't need to.
I want to say yes for a few reasons.
1. Few reviews of people shorting their boards (possibly just users fault here)
2. Price for $120 you can do better for much less.
3. Might be to tall for your side fan for your case (if u wish to keep it)
Cooler size = Dimensions (L x W x H) : 128 x 104 x 147mm = 5in - 4in - 6in (rough size not exact) it will most likely block your 120mm side fan.
Your case is Dimensions(L x W x H) 18.90" x 7.32" x 16.46" take into consideration that 1 inch goes to the 120mm side fan + half inch for the motherboard/tray. So you have to get a cooler that is less then 6 inches tall.
Someone correct me if I am wrong here on the sizes.
Sadly will have to find a good cooler later gotta get ready for my nephews baseball game...the biggest issue is finding one that wont hit your side fan + will allow you to shut your side panel. Need one that is less then 6 inches to be safe...and make sure it wont block your ram slots (if you have tall ram sinks)
A example of tall are these.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231352&cm_re=gskill-_-20-231-352-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220426
heres the kind of ram i got so not sure if i have that problem just want to make sure i get a better heatsink then this stock intel crap i want something that will give me some overclockability if i choose to overclock to 3ghz each core so far i am gonna keep it on standard settings for awhile
heres the kind of ram i got so not sure if i have that problem just want to make sure i get a better heatsink then this stock intel crap i want something that will give me some overclockability if i choose to overclock to 3ghz each core so far i am gonna keep it on standard settings for awhile
Twist86
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Well this will be a tough one then...those are taller ramsinks so you gotta also be careful in width now too
With luck someone has some in hand knowledge of the smaller heatsinks...sadly most my knowledge is in the bulky towers like Xigmatek S1283 - TuniqTower120 - Sunbeam etc.
Will check out some reviews on coolers though in the morning when I have some more time.
With luck someone has some in hand knowledge of the smaller heatsinks...sadly most my knowledge is in the bulky towers like Xigmatek S1283 - TuniqTower120 - Sunbeam etc.
Will check out some reviews on coolers though in the morning when I have some more time.