Custom Built Or Alienware Or Genesis Desktop?

That's not necessarilly bad, but you could get a lot more for the money if you do normal combos and all, there's no need at all for a 240 buck case or a mobo worth more than the cpu going into it, and only 100 off, you could get more with separate combos probably. What exactly is this for (don't want to read through the last 2 pages as it wasn't in the first few posts)
 
Some of the gamer guys should be around soon.
I'm not a gamer so they know what works better.
I'd stay away from a "Kit" and let the guys help you make a parts list if you want something that rocks.
 
Some of the gamer guys should be around soon.
I'm not a gamer so they know what works better.
I'd stay away from a "Kit" and let the guys help you make a parts list if you want something that rocks.

yea i wasn't sure what they meant by going to "newegg.com" and building your own.



and I'm not sure about the compatibility.


thanks anyways for your help
 
Newegg has great stuff, it's just that the kits lack the newest tech that won't be outdated so soon.
The z77 board is upgradable and supports PCIE 3.0 with the right cpu.
 
Newegg has great stuff, it's just that the kits lack the newest tech that won't be outdated so soon.
The z77 board is upgradable and supports PCIE 3.0 with the right cpu.

yea thats the thing i don't want stuff thats going to be outdated soon.



i want to build a desktop with the newest technology so it can last. and it seems like its much cheaper to build ur own

rather than spending 5 grand on a genesis or a alienware.
 
So what's your budget? We can help
You buy the individual parts from the website, and then put them together yourself.
I admit, it seems very daunting with compatibility and stuff.
Stick around forums stuff, and you'll quickly see that it's really easy.

We aren't super nerds soldering and never going outside.
Most of us are just people that like saving money.
 
So what's your budget? We can help
You buy the individual parts from the website, and then put them together yourself.
I admit, it seems very daunting with compatibility and stuff.
Stick around forums stuff, and you'll quickly see that it's really easy.

We aren't super nerds soldering and never going outside.
Most of us are just people that like saving money.

i've always wanted to build a custom computer, i just didnt have anyone to really guide me. because i can make it to my liking.


alienware and genesis just seems simpler since i don't really have anyone that can help me build it. but really really expensive



my budget would be less than 5 grand.

ideally 2-3 grand. willing to spend more if its worth/necessary to run the new games ON HIGHEST SETTINGS WITH NO LAG, with the best network card to optimize the internet speed. and with the most reasonable amount of SSD space i can get. (reasonable meaning getting a big enough SSD without exceeding what i need.)


i emphasize on highest settings with no lag, because i NEVER had a computer that can do that, and I'm willing to spend extra just to get to get to that goal.


i want the newest technology, like what would be your ideal desktop gaming computer?


i want to run WoW on high settings, Diablo 3, Left 4 dead, the new star wars MMO, SC2, Total War games. etc etc
 
Do you need monitors too?

And if you don't want to build it yourself, a local computer shop should be able to do it, or hey, i could ;) (seriously i could :D i don't care much about money so i'd only charge like 100 instead of the 2-300+ other places probably would).
 
if I recall correctly this site has stickies somewhere with instructions.
If you're still hesitant but want to do it yourself, i'm sure sombody could Skype you to help, or just post step-by-step instructions.

It's really as easy as a lego kit. Actually, even easier cause it doesn't have nearly as many parts.
 
you can go on youtube look up how to build a computer, and even find ones with some of the same parts as you.
 



i like your build, it just looks crazy when u start reading the specs.

and i do need monitors hmm what are some good suggestions? i plan to get 2 so i can play games, and run a web browser, or run a separate virtual machine.


a couple of questions though, where is the network card? is it built in to the motherboard? (sorry for being a newb)


and when u say 2x the graphics card, u mean get 2 of em? so basically $1000 total? so I basically have 4GIGS of video card ram?


and i want 32 GB of ram. i know its a lot, i know a lot of people are gonna say I'm not gonna need it at all. but i just kinda of want it, especially with laptops having 16GB of ram, if a laptop has 16 GB of ram, i just feel like a desktop should have more.

and plus I'm going to be running virtual machines at times. prob have XP, Windows 7, windows 8 (when it comes out), and possibly make one virtual machine into a hackintosh, if possible.


a question with the tower and the cooling system, how do i fit in there? doesnt the tower already have a cooling system? what do i take out? and what do install?



and just to make sure, its all compatible? and how long would i have to wait till new egg restocks on the video card and the processor?
 
and i do need monitors hmm what are some good suggestions? i plan to get 2 so i can play games, and run a web browser, or run a separate virtual machine.

I'd recommend getting monitors with some sort of IPS panels (better viewing angles). Keep in mind that if you want large monitors (>24"), then you'll see a lot of monitors with TN panels (most prevalent panels that have issues with viewing angles). IPS panels usually mean that the price is higher when compared to TN panels of the same size.

a couple of questions though, where is the network card? is it built in to the motherboard? (sorry for being a newb)

Yes it is.

and when u say 2x the graphics card, u mean get 2 of em? so basically $1000 total? so I basically have 4GIGS of video card ram?

Yes, yes and no. Technically you would have 4GB of VRAM, but in practice you have 2GB. The reason behind this is that one way of using two GPUs is called alternate frame rendering (AFR). One card renders even frames and the other renders odd frames. This means that the VRAM of each card is only used for rendering the frames that are assigned to that card.

and i want 32 GB of ram. i know its a lot, i know a lot of people are gonna say I'm not gonna need it at all. but i just kinda of want it, especially with laptops having 16GB of ram, if a laptop has 16 GB of ram, i just feel like a desktop should have more.

and plus I'm going to be running virtual machines at times. prob have XP, Windows 7, windows 8 (when it comes out), and possibly make one virtual machine into a hackintosh, if possible.

You are probably not gonna need it. But there are some cool things you can do, if you do get 32GB of RAM. One cool thing you can do is use RAM disks for large games. It is in essence a temporary virtual hard drive that you load into the RAM in order to get high read and write speeds. For example if you don't get an SSD or run out of space on it, you can store the image (copy) of the RAM disk on a regular hard drive and load up the image into the RAM when you need it. Some people use this for games with large levels. There are videos on YouTube demonstrating how this affects loading times and performance in games like Skyrim and Battlefield 3.
 
and for the ram disk, so if i get an SSD, there is no need for that method?

A RAM disk is still faster than an SSD, but if you go for an SSD then you probably won't need RAM disks as they can be a bit of a chore to use.

There are a few advantages to using RAM disks. The main one being that you get amazing read and write speeds. Another advantage is that you can store images of RAM disks on regular HDDs, which is cheaper than buying big SSDs.

The disadvantage is that the size of RAM disks are limited by the amount of memory in your computer, though in most cases it will be enough. You also have to load and unload the images depending on what you want to have access to. The data isn't always accessible like it would be if you used an SSD or HDD.

It is also possible, though a bit tricky, to put only a part of a game on a RAM disk. So if you don't have enough RAM to put the entire game in a RAM disk, then you can put things like meshes and textures on a RAM disk and link those so that the operating system thinks the files in the RAM disk are on the hard disk just like the rest of the game. That way you'll have meshes and textures, which are always loaded to and unloaded from memory, already in the RAM so that the game can load them faster (compared to loading them from the HDD).


The second one comes with a heatsink designed for liquid cooling. So unless you intend to buy a pump, reservoir, radiator, tubes and go for liquid cooling, then the first one is better as it has air cooling.
 
would the tower be able to support my liquid cooling system?



and i've been told that this ram:


RipJaws X (x2)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231468



isn't compatible with my motherboard which is:



I7-3770K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501



and i was told to get this:



Trident X Series
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231587




and what is an ideal wireless gaming network card? or should i just go wired?



wow my total cost excluding the ram is about


$3700
 
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