Dell Computers

Dell's are upgradable. I upgraded my Vostro 1000 from 1GB RAM to 2GB RAM, and I am going to upgrade the 120gb hard disk to a 320gb or 400gb later this year.
 
I don't know how big of a deal it is to replace a dell power supply, but it's supposedly a pain to replace the processor and heatsink.

PSU's are tricky, as you have to do a bit of shopping for the right one. CPU's are easy, but heatsinks should be ordered through Dell as they like to use a massive HS with no fans.
 
Dell's have treated me well generally until I started getting into building my own PCs. They are generally well-made for the average joe who just wants e-mail, internet, and maybe some light gaming if they are willing to put extra money in. I hear horror stories about the Dell PSUs when I have a Dell sitting downstairs for homework and e-mail that has the same stock psu that came with the computer 5 years ago, and it's still running fine.

Like everyone said, some people don't care for building their own PCs. For example, people also build custom musical instruments as well for much cheaper, but that doesn't mean every musician wants custom guitars, drums, etc.
 
Ok, there are some serious Dell lovers here I see.

I personally don't like them. They are over priced and under spec'd for anything but for basic computing. They are good for a office or for someone doing homework or basic computing. That's it.

If the average person did ANY research on computers, they would know not to buy one from them. But it does not surprise me that most people just trust the brand name and do no research at all.

Yes people just want one to work, good for them. They deserve what they get. And I am sure that since they do not know any better, they are very happy with them.

How many people have you seen come on this forum and say, I have a Dell system, but I want to build my own next, or have been convinced to build their own system. If they were SO happy with them, why are they now building their own system?

The first system I had was a HP. I hated it so bad I swore I would never buy a system from any pre builder again, and I haven't.

When I built my first system, I had no idea what I was doing. I had never used a computer before my HP. Never even looked inside a computer before that.

I did some basic research, talked to a couple of friends that were into computers about parts. I went to a local computers parts store and bought everything I needed. Went home and about 3 hours later had it up and running.

If I can do it, with no prior experience, any one can do it. I was 35 at the time, now I am 48. I taught myself to install, trouble shoot and repair computers. I pride myself on never having had to call a tech support person. I do research and figure out what is wrong myself. Forums are a great place to learn.


It's fine if you think Dell is so great, I am sure your using one yourself, (or did you build yourself one instead?) But I will stick with something I build myself, and know will work as it should.


I am sorry if I talked bad about a company you like so much, and I apologize for hurting your feelings, but the fact is, I still think Dell sucks, and it's my right to think that.

And Yes, I am a bit of a jack of all trades. I have worked with my hands all of my life. I can build a shelf out of wood, I can build aircraft parts out of a blank sheet of metal, I can and do build Apache helicopter transmissions ( I have worked for Boeing for 23 years) I can trouble shoot a aircraft electrical problem, or remove and replace the weapons systems. I do home repairs, fix my cars and can rebuild a pool pump. If I look at something I can usually figure out how it works, and how to repair it. Maybe most people are not as lucky as I am with the ability to work with their hands. Or as picky as I am about what I buy. That's fine. They have every right to do what they want, or feel how they want. But so do I.
 
Ok, there are some serious Dell lovers here I see.

Not a lover, nor a hater. I simply tell it how it is.

And I am sure that since they do not know any better, they are very happy with them.

No offense, but are you trying to be a ball-buster or harass folks who don't have as much computer knowledge as others?

How many people have you seen come on this forum and say, I have a Dell system, but I want to build my own next, or have been convinced to build their own system. If they were SO happy with them, why are they now building their own system?

Personal advancement? Just 'to do it'? Bragging rights? To see if they can? A better understanding?

It's fine if you think Dell is so great, I am sure your using one yourself

For the record, no. HP was my only pre-built also; current is in the Sig.. My entire family/in-laws use Dell systems and never have problems. Those that I do repair for Clients in no way make up the majority of my work.

I am sorry if I talked bad about a company you like so much, and I apologize for hurting your feelings, but the fact is, I still think Dell sucks, and it's my right to think that.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion; I assure you nothing you do could hurt my feelings; It it your right as an American to think whatever you please; some may disagree, but I will fight/die to insure you and others maintain that right. ((I still disagree, though :P However, I'd also defend HP, Compaq, IBM, and any other pre-built manufacturer.))

I can and do build Apache helicopter transmissions

Sweet. My Longbow needs a new one.

I always re-read my Posts before I submit them. I look it over and try to view it from as many different angles as possible. I try not to offend, but...such is life at times. Perhaps we should agree to disagree and move on.
 
No offense, but are you trying to be a ball-buster or harass folks who don't have as much computer knowledge as others?

Not at all, I just think people are to lazy or afraid to try. Building a computer is the easiest thing I have ever done.







Everyone is entitled to their opinion; I assure you nothing you do could hurt my feelings; It it your right as an American to think whatever you please; some may disagree, but I will fight/die to insure you and others maintain that right. ((I still disagree, though :P However, I'd also defend HP, Compaq, IBM, and any other pre-built manufacturer.))

And that's your right. Even if your wrong. :)


Sweet. My Longbow needs a new one.

For only $150,000 I can get you one. Yes they cost that much. New at least. If you want a rebuilt one, I might be able to get you a deal. And you should see the new advanced longbow that will be coming out in a few years! It's one amazing machine! But shhhh, it's still under wraps!

I always re-read my Posts before I submit them. I look it over and try to view it from as many different angles as possible. I try not to offend, but...such is life at times. Perhaps we should agree to disagree and move on.

Believe me, I re-read mine as well. You should see what I cut out. And yes, I agree to disagree.
Moving on! :)
 
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Dell's comps and laptops in my experience have been very efficient while multi-tasking but lack in gaming unless you go with The mid to higher end XPS's which would cost a lot more than building the same PC yourself. In my opinion, build instead of buying pre-assembled unless you want a piece of crap HP or something less than $500.
 
Not at all, I just think people are to lazy or afraid to try.

That's untrue, lets put yourself in my dad's shoes for a moment. He's a director for an NHS organisation and he does a LOT of work. He needs a PC that he can get sorted quickly and without having to go about sending everything back. That's why he bought a Mesh PC when he could have easily built one himself. He's got the skill but not the time to be faffing and fine-tuning.
 
That's untrue, lets put yourself in my dad's shoes for a moment. He's a director for an NHS organisation and he does a LOT of work. He needs a PC that he can get sorted quickly and without having to go about sending everything back. That's why he bought a Mesh PC when he could have easily built one himself. He's got the skill but not the time to be faffing and fine-tuning.


And that's fine, but did he get what he paid for? Did he care that he paid more for it than he could have by building it himself? I know some people have more money than time. That's cool. I wish I was one of them.

I had never heard of Mesh computers, so I looked them up. The look like they have better parts than most Dell's, but they still seem way over priced.

How has that Mesh system been for him? Did he ever have to have any tech support? If so, how did it go?


Faffing? What's that?

NHS? National Health service?
 
paratwa: you make a lot of sense! very nice to see someone saying their own opinion in a very frank way! i don't like dells.. over priced as you say and under spec-ed... i have always baught mine in parts.. takes a couple of hours and done!

faffing = messing about.. wasting time

NHS= national health service
 
And that's fine, but did he get what he paid for? Did he care that he paid more for it than he could have by building it himself? I know some people have more money than time. That's cool. I wish I was one of them.

He definately got what he paid for, the machine is more stable than mine (no crashes at all). In fact he's better off spending that bit more for piece of mind (in fact it was only about £20 more than a self-build).

I had never heard of Mesh computers, so I looked them up. The look like they have better parts than most Dell's, but they still seem way over priced.

The equivalent Dell was only a fraction less and based on the quality of the previous Mesh we went for it.

How has that Mesh system been for him? Did he ever have to have any tech support? If so, how did it go?

He's never needed tech support, the previous Mesh finally died after 5 years of fault-free service with a PSU finally dying. After 5 years it was deemed pointless to repair as the motherboard, PSU and CPU went.


Faffing? What's that?

Faffing means messing around when there isn't any point to it.

NHS? National Health service?

Yep, the NHS is the UK's health service.
 
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