Before we get started lets waylay all the Dell jokes, please. I have heard them all and I hold the opinion, at least as far as working on them, that the only good Dell is a dead Dell. Good for what they are they work adequately for what you get. I would never buy one. Given all of that and due to several threads the last few days or so dealing with Dells, I decided to try a little experiment. Swapping the guts of a Dell into a standard ATX mid tower. The beastie below is a dimension 4550 configured as follows: Intel (dells design) 865 socket 478 P-4 (2.53 Ghz Northwood core) GeForce MX4 1 GB DDR ram 100Gb 5400 IDE HDD DVD/R & CD/RW FDD Windows XP Pro These things are heavy and I really dislike the clam shell case. However I do see a lot of these of similar design as they are rugged and seem to hold up fairly well.