Difference between Highend Intel and AMD CPU
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Seems I did not read the actual topic right and misunderstood things. I overreacted, sorry.
The god of CPUs forgives you.
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I remember that long time ago I used to have AMD Athlon 1800+ I believe and it was quite a good CPU (single-core 1.53GHz). AMD seemed very powerful with their CPUs back in the 90s and early 00s. At least they found their league in GPUs. I think AMD is totally winning in GPU branch above everybody else.
gigabiteme
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amd/intel-the forever argument- i use amd fx-4100 @4.2 ghz
with 990sb and nb chipsets-works fine -also someone asked about
pci-3 i heard it's not all that much better- i will wait and see what evolves there
with 990sb and nb chipsets-works fine -also someone asked about
pci-3 i heard it's not all that much better- i will wait and see what evolves there
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I believe PCIe 3 is completely backwards compatible so popping a PCIe 3 GPU card into a PCIe 2 MoBo socket wont matter. I actually have such setup right now, its working fine and I dont think the GPU is bottlenecked at all.
Virssagòn
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Jiniix
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I know this is a little off-topic, but only a little.
The AMD Athlon II X4 631.
I was told that this little bugger (costs ½ of an i3-2120 in Denmark) is capable of OC'ing to 4.2GHz and more.
And according to www.cpubenchmark.net, it's the best CPU in the value chart.
So I was wondering:
Is this CPU capable of outperforming the i3-2120 (couldn't find a review or anything) in games?
The AMD Athlon II X4 631.
I was told that this little bugger (costs ½ of an i3-2120 in Denmark) is capable of OC'ing to 4.2GHz and more.
And according to www.cpubenchmark.net, it's the best CPU in the value chart.
So I was wondering:
Is this CPU capable of outperforming the i3-2120 (couldn't find a review or anything) in games?
Virssagòn
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just simple, nope. Even overclocked will the athlon be slower...
jonnyp11
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Pcie 3 at x8 is the same as 2 at x16, and i believe it is the same for gen 1 to 2, meaning each generation is twice the speed, thats a good bit better IMO.
Okedokey
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Only if you can use it. Other than that, its pointless.
What do you mean? You can use it... The new AMD GPUs come with a PCIe 3 bus
Jiniix
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He means that no current GPU (not even overclocked GTX 690) is currently bottlenecked in a PCIe 2 x16 lane, making paying extra money for PCIe 3 useless.
PCIe 3 is, as stated, twice as fast as PCIe 2. You could dual GPU medium-high GPUs in x4 lanes, because it translates into PCIe 2 x8 lanes.
PCIe 3 is, as stated, twice as fast as PCIe 2. You could dual GPU medium-high GPUs in x4 lanes, because it translates into PCIe 2 x8 lanes.
jonnyp11
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Actually a 7970 i know benefits it so the 680 and 690 should to, but only when doing CAD and other 3D modeling programs
spynoodle
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Agreed. I was putting together a build for fun on Newegg a couple days ago, and at first I tried to use an AMD APU. At first glance, it seems like a pretty nice mid-range option if you pair it with an HD6670 for Dual Graphics, but the CPU speed and power efficiency is just godawful. A basic Core i3 is faster than AMD's best APU, and don't even get me started on IPC. It's simply pathetic how far behind AMD has fallen. They haven't made an architecture overhaul that actually improves IPC since the days when they were competing with LGA775. That's just sad.
Also true. I personally can't believe that Intel hasn't bought Nvidia yet. They could immediately run AMD out of business if they did. Perhaps it's for the better, though; we can still hope for some competition.
Man, everybody ragging AMD out. Saying they are beat in lowerend/mid and upper range. Even saying its sad or they flat out suck. I have a FX-8120. All the FX are unlocked and overclock pretty well. Even on the stock cooler they will hit around 4.0/4.2ghz. Mine will do around 4.8ghz with a aftermarket cooler, even higher on a short run. Can get 5ghz or higher on water.
Right now you can get a FX 8120 for 149 bucks. You can even get a FX 6100 for 120 bucks. In smileman benchmark my FX 8120 at 4.5ghz ties a 2600K running at 4.3ghz. Since the FX 8120 cost 149 bucks I will give Intel a price advantage and take on any Intel in a benchmark thats under 200 bucks. But not Super PI, it uses x87 floating-point and who gives a crap, means nothing. But bring on any Intel for under 200 bucks, lets see at the same price its a i3 2130. But this crap is getting old.
Right now you can get a FX 8120 for 149 bucks. You can even get a FX 6100 for 120 bucks. In smileman benchmark my FX 8120 at 4.5ghz ties a 2600K running at 4.3ghz. Since the FX 8120 cost 149 bucks I will give Intel a price advantage and take on any Intel in a benchmark thats under 200 bucks. But not Super PI, it uses x87 floating-point and who gives a crap, means nothing. But bring on any Intel for under 200 bucks, lets see at the same price its a i3 2130. But this crap is getting old.
jonnyp11
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although at microcenter a 2500k is only 160 or 170 and you get 50 off with a z77 mobo vs 40 off with a 8120 fir 150, that is a better deal overall, but on newegg or other sites, 8120 is still a good deal IMO. Still cant wait for some piledriver benches.
salvage-this
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I agree. My motherboard just took a dive for the i7 rig. I picked up a motherboard and the FX 8120 for just over $200 for both. About the same price that it would have cost me to get a i5.
I was debating an i5 but after seeing your scores right around where mine were, I decided that it was a better deal to get the 8120 for less and OC it. I have not done a lot of testing yet but it does not feel slow at all.
Virssagòn
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PI is testing per core, mine is testing when all cores work together. The 8 core amd is doing great in multithreaded but singlethreaded?