Dll Problems

Jiffyman

Jiffyman

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For some reason my AVG antivirus and a couple other programs quit working after I used the Disk Cleanup utility or so I think. Here is what the error says
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This also happens with the calculator application. As I find more problems I'll add them to this thread.
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The one I am most concerned about is the Antivirus. I don't know very much about Dlls, so If someone could help me with this it would be greatly appreciated as always.
 
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For AVG a removal of the current install and download of a fresh copy may also see a newer build. If you are running the 7.5 version a slightly newer build came out 3 or 4 weeks ago the 7.5410 or close. That should correct the AVG problem fast there. If the calculator is not MS then a reinstall of that would likely be needed as well. It sounds like you used a 3rd party disk cleanup program that cleaned up the wrong things.
 
Actually I used the windows disk clean up utility. I also forgot to mention that I did a DiskCleanup after I installed Flyakite Osx. I've also tried to reinstall AVG with the newer version a couple of days ago and still nothing. Right after the install completed the same error came up. I don't know if this should be in the OS section maybe I should have put it there. Oh and the Calculator application is from Microsoft.
 
There's a couple of things you can try here to see if that will get you back running again. If you have an XP installation disk you can run the system file checker to scan for any missing or damaged system files. You simply type "sfc /scannow" in at the Run prompt to see that verify and then proceed to replace any problem system files by expanding the replacements from the cd archives.

The second involves the system registry where you manually have to remove the main keys there for AVG itself. While the sfc /scannow works on the MS problems if found you will have to manually remove the main key for AVG in order to remove the current files and folders for a clean install of the update. It's not as complicated as it mey seem with one registry tool in mind.

For actually viewing and selectively removing the Grisoft/AVG registry key the freeware called RegCleaner opens up to a main window for viewing the programs you have installed. You simply place a check mark next to the Grisoft value and click on the remove button next to the exit at the bottom right of that screen. That is free at http://www.dewassoc.com/support/useful/regcleaner.htm The screen shot below will show how this looks when open.


Shot at 2007-07-26
 
Okay I will use the system file checker and see if that works then I'll delete those keys if that doesn't work. I'll post my results when I'm done.
 
Be careful still when using the RegCleaner to remove only the correct Grisoft keys seen in the screen there and nothing else. First use the add/remove or uninstaller for AVG to clean what you can that way and then see if those two keys are remaining. Once you have that all gone restart the system after the use of the system tool as well to see how things go then. This has worked a few times here when something was off iwth AVG.
 
Well I ran the System File Checker and nothing came up. I also uninstalled AVG and went to check the registry with that program and any entries for GRI SOFT don't seem to be in there. Right now I'm reinstalling AVG again to see if it has been fixed but I highly doubt it.
 
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Nope it didn't do a damn thing. I'm really starting to believe that this is an OS problem. Should I repost it in the OS section?
 
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Sorry about the tipple post. Does anyone else have any suggestions. Should I put this in the OS section of the forum.
 
Did AVG go on well? or was there an installation problem seen on the fresh install? Not seeing the two main keys means the uninstaller worked like it was supposed to. The only problems seen with AVG over the last 5 or 6yrs. roughly was having problems uninstalling namely with an earlier version on 98 not XP.

One tip for solving too many problems seen at once is the repair install option available in XP ro preserve your files and folders as well as most programs installed while replacing the main system files. The system file checker usually takes a less serious problems like drivers hanging or missing while something else like another software seems to have gone bad there. With that in mind the troubleshooting information on the FlyakiteOSX goes as follows.

"If you encounter error messages after removing the programs or after using the program, need not panic as everything is reversible. This program automatically creates a restore point where you can restore everything to an earlier time, before you installed the program. Go to Start Menu > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools > System Restore. Click on Restore My Computer to an earlier time and choose the date in bold. This process will restore your computer system to an earlier time before you installed FlyakiteOSX." http://www.flyakiteosx.com/faq/

Before reviewing that seen on their faq page I was about to suggest trying a restore back as far as you could go just before installing that desktop mod to see if the MS tool clashed or that saw a bad install on it's own. For the more extensive repair of Windows without deletion of the current installation the last option is to follow the guidelines seen in the article for performing an "install to repair" on XP. http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
 
I tried to install AVG again, it didn't work as expected. I'm pretty sure that something is wrong with my OS. I can't really do a system restore cause I don't like the utility and I always disable cause it can be a breeding ground for viruses if I catch any. Not to mention all the space that it waste. I also don't feel up to doing an extensive repair cause that never seems to work and always messes things up even more than they already are. I really don't know what I should do. Maybe I'm just S.O.L. I haven't had to reinstall windows in more than six months and I plan to keep it that way. I bet FLY-A-KITE-OSX did mess it up. I'm going to look this error up google like I should have a long time ago.
 
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Well I tried to google it and came up with nothing, but I did get the problem fixed. I just uninstalled FLY-A-KITE-OSX and all is well. Thank you PC eye for helping me out with this. I should've known when I tried to clean my hard disk after FLY-A-KITE-OSX was installed and the DLL Relocation Error occurred. Again thank you PC EYE.

Thanks,
Jiffyman
 
That seemed the likely offender there. Some of these OS mods can cause problems at times like you found out fast there. The repair install method does actually work pretty well when and if needed. Have you made any further attempt to install AVG since you removed the mod? It would be interesting to see if that also suddenly went on good.
 
That makes life a bit easier for you then. I tried an XP mod when those first came out for the Vista look and dumped that fast when it clashed with a few things. At least you know why you were seeing problems with AVG since that generally runs reliably on most systems.
 
Yeah, not only did it fix AVG, but it fixed everything else that was broken too. I guess some of the DLLs from fly a kite osx were clashing with some of the main ones.
 
I wouldn't be surprised to learn that this one or others has some form of adware or spyware builtin to get past security measures like antivirus and firewall programs including Windiows's own. That could readily explain the problems you saw with AVG and then suddenly corrected once it was removed?

It's still a good lesson there for knowing that any new mod or freeware that starts seeing problems with normal programs in addintion to Windows is something to send on it's way. It's too bad you can't run some of this stuff in a virtual window to isolate the system from any side effects.
 
The one thing about that however is that the FlyaKite OSX is a Windows mod there. For running some old dos stuff even on Vista one virtual dos machine goes by the name of DOSBox. That ceates a virtual dos environment by mounting a virtual dos drive. More recently you may see some running Linux distros by way of a VM isolating the two OSs that way. That's a method of creating a cross plattform environment
 
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