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Happy_Demon

New Member
A friend is going to help me build a computer and here are the parts I was thinking of. I am going to ask him as well, but I figured I should ask here as well since he has exams this week. And we all know what mama says. Mama says better safe then sorry, so I am mostly concerned with:

a) Whether everything is compatible, &
b) If I am missing any part, including: wires, cables, etc.

Here is all the stuff (I cut out some pieces that I think were unnecessary, and added links to them in case I did cut something out that was):

<>CASE<>
COOLER MASTER CM Stacker STC-T01-UWK Silver/Black Aluminum/Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Model #: STC-T01-UWK
Item #: N82E16811119039
Brand COOLER MASTER
Series CM Stacker
Model STC-T01-UWK
Type ATX Full Tower
Power Supply No
Motherboard Compatibility Extended ATX
External 5.25" Drive Bays 7
External 3.5" Drive Bays 1
Internal 3.5" Drive Bays 3
Expansion Slots 7
Front Ports USB, Audio, IEEE1394
80mm Fans 1
120mm Fans 2
Air duct No
Dimensions 23"x 9"x 21.2" (DxWxH)

http://www2.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16811119039

<>POWER SUPPLY<>
Antec NeoPower ATX 480W Power Supply 100 - 240V TUV, UL, CUL, CE, CB, FCC
Model #: NeoPower
Item #: N82E16817103924
Brand Antec
Model NeoPower
Type ATX
Maximum Power 480W
Fans 1
PFC Active
Dual +12V Yes
Power Good Signal 100-500ms
Hold-up Time 20ms
Efficiency > 70%
Over Voltage Protection YES
Overload Protection YES
Input Voltage 100 - 240V
Input Frequency Range 47 - 63Hz
Input Current 12A @ 115AC, 6A @ 230AC
Output +3.3V@30A, +5V@38A, +12V1@18A, +12V2@15A, -12V@1A, +5VSB@2A
MTBF >80,000 Hours
Approvals TUV, UL, CUL, CE, CB, FCC

http://www2.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16817103924

<>MOTHERBOARD<>
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

Model #: K8N NEO4 Platinum
Item #: N82E16813130484

Brand: MSI
Model: K8N Neo4 Platinum
CPU Socket Type: Socket 939
CPU Type: Athlon 64 FX/Athlon 64
FSB: 1000MHz Hyper Transport
North Bridge: NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra
Number of DDR Slots 4x 184pin DDR
DDR Standard: DDR 400 (PC 3200)
Maximum Memory Supported: 4GB
Dual Channel Supported: Yes
PCI-E x16: 1
PCI-E x1: 1
PCI Slots: 4
Other Slots: 1 x PCI-Express X 4
PATA: 2 x ATA 133 up to 4 Devices
PATA RAID: NV RAID 0/1/0+1 JBOD
SATA: 4 x SATA2 300
SATA RAID: NV RAID 0/1/0+1 JBOD
Additional SATA: 4 x SATA 150
Additional SATA RAID: RAID 0/1/0+1/5 JBOD
Integrated Video: No
Audio Chipset: Realtek ALC850
Audio Channels: 8 Channels
LAN Chipset: Marvell 88E1111 PHY
LAN Speed: 10/100/1000Mbps
Second LAN Chipset: Marvell 88E8053
Second LAN Speed: 10/100/1000Mbps
Max LAN Speed: Dual 10/100/1000Mbps
PS/2: 2
COM: 1
LPT: 1
USB: 4x USB2.0
IEEE1394: 1x 1394
S/PDIF Out: 1x Optical and 1x Coaxial
Audio Ports: 5 jacks
Onboard USB Connectors: 6x USB2.0 (3x headers)
Onboard 1394 Connectors: 1x 1394a
Form Factor: ATX

http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130484

<>PROCESSOR<>AMD Athlon 64 3800+ Newcastle 1GHz FSB 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor

Model #: ADA3800AWBOX
Item #: N82E16819103465

Series: Athlon 64
CPU Socket Type: Socket 939
Core: Newcastle
Name: Athlon 64 3800+
Operating Frequency: 2.4GHz
FSB: 1GHz
L1 Cache: 64KB+64KB
L2 Cache: 512KB
Process: 0.13 µm
Hyper-Transport Support: Yes
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW! Professional
Voltage: 1.5V

http://www2.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819103465

<>VIDEO CARD<>
BFG Tech Geforce 6800GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI-Express x16 Video Card - Retail

Model #: BFGW68256GTOCXV
Item #: N82E16814143029

Brand: BFG Tech
Model: BFGW68256GTOC
GPU: Geforce 6800GT
Core clock: 370MHz
PixelPipelines: 16
Memory Clock: 1000MHz
Memory Size: 256MB
Memory Interface: 256-bit
Memory Type: GDDR3
3D API
DirectX: DirectX 9
OpenGL: OpenGL 2.0
Interface: PCI-Express x16
D-SUB: 1
DVI: 1
TV-Out: HDTV/S-Video/Composite Out
VIVO: No
TV Tuner: No
RAMDAC: 400 MHz
Max Resolution: 2048x1536@85Hz
SLI Supported: Yes
Operating Systems Supported: Windows 2000/XP
System Requirements: Intel PentiumIII, AMD Duron or Athlon class processor or higher
128MB of RAM
CD or DVD-ROM drive
35MB available hard disk space
(50MB for full installation)
Microsoft Windows® XP
A minimum 300W system power supply
A PCI Express compliant motherboard.
Two available hard disk drive power dongles (smaller floppy disk drive connector is not sufficient)

http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814143029

<>MEMORY<>
2x Patriot 1GB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) System Memory
Model #: PEP1G3200LL
Item #: N82E16820220045
Brand Patriot
Model PEP1G3200LL
Type 184-Pin DDR SDRAM
Capacity 1GB
Speed DDR 400 (PC 3200)
Cas Latency 2
Timing 2-3-2-5
ECC No
Registered/Unbuffered Unbuffered

http://www2.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820220045

<>HARD DRIVE<>
Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6B300R0 300GB 7200 RPM 16M Cache IDE Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive - OEM

Model #: 6B300R0
Item #: N82E16822140154

Brand: Maxtor
Series: DiamondMax 10
Model: 6B300R0
Capacity: 300GB
Cache: 16M
RPM: 7200 RPM
Average Seek Time: 9ms
Average Latency: 4.17ms
Interface IDE: Ultra ATA133

http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822140154

<>CD-ROM<>
NEC Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 4X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache IDE DVD Burner
Model #: ND-3520A BK
Item #: N82E16827152035
Brand NEC
Type DVD Burner
Model ND-3520A
DVD-ROM Access Time 140ms
CD-ROM Access Time 120ms
Cache 2M
Data Transfer Rate CD: 48x CAV (max7200 kByte/s), DVD: 16x CAV (max 22000 kBytes)
WRITE Speed
DVD+R 16X
DVD+RW 8X
DVD-R 16X
DVD-RW 6X
CD-R 48X
CD-RW 24X
DVD+R DL 4X
READ Speed
DVD-ROM 16X
CD-ROM 48X
Form Factor 5"
Interface IDE
Operating Systems Supported Windows 98/ ME/ 2000/ XP

http://www2.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16827152035

<>MONITOR<>
SAMSUNG 990DF Black 19" CRT Monitor 0.20mm Dot Pitch D-Sub - Retail

Model #: SyncMaster 990df
Item #: N82E16824001178

Panel: CRT
Screen Size: 19"
Viewable Size: 18"
Maximum Resolution: 1920x1440
Recommended Resolution: 1600x1200
Dot Pitch: 0.20mm
Bandwidth: 250MHz
Horizontal Fresh Rate: 30-96KHz
Vertical Fresh Rate: 50~160Hz
Input Video Compatibility: Analog RGB
Input Connectors: D-Sub
Power Consumption: 100 Watts

http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824001178

<>KEYBOARD & MOUSE<>
BELKIN F8E208-BLK Black 107 Normal Keys AT + PS/2 Ergonomics Keyboard

Model #: F8E208-BLK
Item #: N82E16823154003

Brand BELKIN
Model F8E208-BLK
Keyboard Connection Type
Keyboard Interface AT + PS/2

http://www2.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16823154003

Logitech MX510 931162-0403 Blue 8 Buttons 1x Wheel USB + PS/2 Optical Mouse - Retail

Model #: 931162-0403
Item #: N82E16826104151

Brand: Logitech
Name: MX510
Model: 931162-0403
Interface: USB + PS/2
Hand Orientation: Right
Tracking Method: Optical
Buttons: 8
Scrolling Capability: 1x Wheel
Features: Image Processing: 5.8 megapixels/sec; Resolution: 800 dpi; Acceleration: 15g; Speed: 40 inches/sec; Eight pre-programmed button functions; Gaming-tuned software drivers; Quick Switch program selector; Fast Net navigation; High-precision scrolling; Cruise Control scrolling system; Right-hand control grip; Reflex finish

http://www2.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16826104151

Thanks ahead of time to anyone who looks over this or has a suggestion.
 
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Happy_Demon

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Ah yes, this computer will be used mostly for playing games, lots of writing, downloading movies and music, and burning them to CDs.
 
The Astroman

The Astroman

Active Member
Looks like a sweet setup! Nice man! Oh, I have the Cooler Master Stacker: one awesome case! Silent and keeps your components nice and cool! It's nice to work inside, it's so big!
 
apj101

apj101

VIP Member
is there a reason you've gone for 2 hdds, i notice one is 10k rpm, maybe you should consider scrapping the Raptor and getting 2 Caviar of the same spec, then raid them. Will give you more space and faster avg seek times.
 
mgoldb2

mgoldb2

VIP Member
Personally I would instead of getting the geforce 6800 ULTRA get a geforce 6800 GT. If you go by the prices at newegg this will save you $150. Then you could easily use that money to get a skt 939 motherboard instead and a athlon 64 3500+.

I also believe the raptors are extremly overrated. I would just get anouther harddrive for cheaper and get more space. The difference in speed you would proberly not notice.
 
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Happy_Demon

New Member
Should I replace the Raptor with another Western Digital Caviar SE WD2500JD 250GB 7200 RPM 8M Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive?

And if I RAID the two will I need to purchase any cables or other things?
 
Yeti

Yeti

VIP Member
Should I replace the Raptor with another Western Digital Caviar SE WD2500JD 250GB 7200 RPM 8M Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive?
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If you really feel the need to RAID them, you should at least buy a drive thats the same size. Read the RAID 101.
And if I RAID the two will I need to purchase any cables or other things?
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No
As for the system - why the crappy monitor? You've got the super expensive gfx card so you should at least get a half way decent monitor for it.
 
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ripken2004

New Member
like mgoldb2 said, get a socket 939, ur overall rig rocks, all of amd's new processors such as the dual core will be on 939 only so you will have trouble upgrading in the future, and then get the 3500 processor with it

for ~100$ more u can get a bundle here:
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=MB-BA20954

please get a mobo+cpu bundle at this site, best prices on them i can find, if u want u can get the msi or dfi boards
 
Blue

Blue

<b>VIP Member</b>
Raid again eh? :). Well what are ya doing with this computer? Chances are a raid setup is gonna be pointless but double your chances for data loss.

Here is an example:

you have 2 Hard drives that are 100gbs. This gives you the total of 200gbs appearing as one single drive, If just one of these drives fail you loose all your data. Now if your using your computer for everyday use or gaming then Raid 0 holds no benefits for you.

Edit:

As for the monitor you do get what you pay for. I would guess your gonna do some gaming with this system as the components that you've choosen are rather high end. I dunno why you would not want to back up your system with a monitor that's at least 19" in size and perhaps a nice Flat screen CRT for around $200-$300.
 
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Happy_Demon

New Member
Okay, How Does This Look Know?

Follow up on last thread as I made some editions. Again I plan to use this for lots of typing, gaming, and burning CDs/DVDs.

<>CASE<>
COOLER MASTER CM Stacker STC-T01-UWK Silver/Black Aluminum/Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Model #: STC-T01-UWK
Item #: N82E16811119039
Brand COOLER MASTER
Series CM Stacker
Model STC-T01-UWK
Type ATX Full Tower
Power Supply No
Motherboard Compatibility Extended ATX
External 5.25" Drive Bays 7
External 3.5" Drive Bays 1
Internal 3.5" Drive Bays 3
Expansion Slots 7
Front Ports USB, Audio, IEEE1394
80mm Fans 1
120mm Fans 2
Air duct No
Dimensions 23"x 9"x 21.2" (DxWxH)

http://www2.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16811119039

<>POWER SUPPLY<>
Antec NeoPower ATX 480W Power Supply 100 - 240V TUV, UL, CUL, CE, CB, FCC
Model #: NeoPower
Item #: N82E16817103924
Brand Antec
Model NeoPower
Type ATX
Maximum Power 480W
Fans 1
PFC Active
Dual +12V Yes
Power Good Signal 100-500ms
Hold-up Time 20ms
Efficiency > 70%
Over Voltage Protection YES
Overload Protection YES
Input Voltage 100 - 240V
Input Frequency Range 47 - 63Hz
Input Current 12A @ 115AC, 6A @ 230AC
Output +3.3V@30A, +5V@38A, +12V1@18A, +12V2@15A, -12V@1A, +5VSB@2A
MTBF >80,000 Hours
Approvals TUV, UL, CUL, CE, CB, FCC

http://www2.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16817103924

<>PROCESSOR<>
ABIT FATAL1TY AN8 Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard

Model #: FATAL1TY AN8
Item #: N82E16813127196

CPU Socket Type: Socket 939
CPU Type: Athlon 64 FX/Athlon 64
FSB: 1000MHz Hyper Transport
North Bridge: NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra
Number of DDR Slot:s 4x 184pin DDR
DDR Standard: DDR 400 (PC 3200)
Maximum Memory Supported: 4GB
Dual Channel Supported: Yes
PCI-E x16: 1
PCI-E x1: 2
PCI Slots: 3
Other Slots: 1x Abit Audio Slot
PATA: 2 x ATA 133 up to 4 Devices
SATA: 4 x SATA2 300
SATA RAID: NV RAID 0/1/0+1 JBOD
Audio Channels: 6 Channels
LAN Speed: 10/100/1000Mbps
Max LAN Speed: 10/100/1000Mbps
PS/2: 2
USB: 4x USB2.0
IEEE1394: 1x 1394
S/PDIF Out: 1x Optical
S/PDIF In: 1x Optical
Audio Ports: 5 jacks
Onboard USB Connectors: 6x USB2.0 (3x headers)
Onboard 1394 Connectors: 1x 1394a
Form Factor: ATX
Integrated NV Gigabit Ethernet and NV Firewall

$189.00

http://www2.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813127196

<>PROCESSOR<>
AMD Athlon 64 3800+ Newcastle 1GHz FSB 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor

Model #: ADA3800AWBOX
Item #: N82E16819103465

Series: Athlon 64
CPU Socket Type: Socket 939
Core: Newcastle
Name: Athlon 64 3800+
Operating Frequency: 2.4GHz
FSB: 1GHz
L1 Cache: 64KB+64KB
L2 Cache: 512KB
Process: 0.13 µm
Hyper-Transport Support: Yes
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW! Professional
Voltage: 1.5V

$378.99

http://www2.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819103465

<>VIDEO CARD<>
GIGABYTE Geforce 6800Ultra 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI-Express x16 Video Card
Model #: GV-NX68U256D
Item #: N82E16814125172
Brand GIGABYTE
Model GV-NX68U256D
GPU Geforce 6800Ultra
Core clock 400MHz
PixelPipelines 16
Memory Clock 1100MHz
Memory Size 256MB
Memory Interface 256-bit
Memory Type GDDR3
3D API
DirectX DirectX 9
OpenGL OpenGL 2.0
Interface PCI-Express x16
Ports
DVI 2
TV-Out S-Video Out
VIVO No
TV Tuner No
RAMDAC 400 MHz
Max Resolution 2048x1536@85Hz
SLI Supported Yes
Accessories
S-Video Cable
DVI to VGA adapter
Power Cable
Manual
Driver CD
Operating Systems Supported Windows 2000/XP
System Requirements A 350W system power supply is highly recommended
Intel Pentium 4, AMD or compatible CPUs
128 MB system memory or more
PCI-Express x16 compliant motherboard

http://www2.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814125172

<>MEMORY<>
2x Patriot 1GB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) System Memory
Model #: PEP1G3200LL
Item #: N82E16820220045
Brand Patriot
Model PEP1G3200LL
Type 184-Pin DDR SDRAM
Capacity 1GB
Speed DDR 400 (PC 3200)
Cas Latency 2
Timing 2-3-2-5
ECC No
Registered/Unbuffered Unbuffered

http://www2.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820220045

<>HARD DRIVES<>
2x Western Digital Caviar SE WD2500JD 250GB 7200 RPM 8M Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive
Model #: WD2500JD
Brand Western Digital
Series Caviar SE
Model WD2500JD
Capacity 250GB
Cache 8M
RPM 7200 RPM
Average Seek Time 8.9ms
Average Write Time 10.9ms
Average Latency 4.2ms
Interface Serial ATA150
Form Factor 3.5"
Features FlexPower, SecureConnect

http://www2.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822144154

<>CD-ROM<>
NEC Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 4X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache IDE DVD Burner
Model #: ND-3520A BK
Item #: N82E16827152035
Brand NEC
Type DVD Burner
Model ND-3520A
DVD-ROM Access Time 140ms
CD-ROM Access Time 120ms
Cache 2M
Data Transfer Rate CD: 48x CAV (max7200 kByte/s), DVD: 16x CAV (max 22000 kBytes)
WRITE Speed
DVD+R 16X
DVD+RW 8X
DVD-R 16X
DVD-RW 6X
CD-R 48X
CD-RW 24X
DVD+R DL 4X
READ Speed
DVD-ROM 16X
CD-ROM 48X
Form Factor 5"
Interface IDE
Operating Systems Supported Windows 98/ ME/ 2000/ XP

http://www2.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16827152035

<>MONITOR<>
CTX VL701B Black 17" CRT Monitor 0.27mm Dot Pitch D-Sub
Model #: VL701B
Item #: N82E16824103202
Brand CTX
Model VL701B
Display
Screen Size 17"
Viewable Size 16"
Maximum Resolution 1280x1024
Recommended Resolution 1024x768
Dot Pitch 0.27mm
Bandwidth 110MHz
Horizontal Fresh Rate 30-72kHz
Vertical Fresh Rate 50-160Hz
Input Video Compatibility RGB analog (0.7VP-P, 75 ohms)
Input Connectors D-Sub
Power Consumption 75W Maximum
User Controls OSD Control
Regulatory Approvals CE, UL/cUL, FCC, CB, CNS, MPRII, Nemko, 3C, TCO'99

http://www2.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16824103202

<>KEYBOARD & MOUSE<>
BELKIN F8E208-BLK Black 107 Normal Keys AT + PS/2 Ergonomics Keyboard
Model #: F8E208-BLK
Item #: N82E16823154003
Brand BELKIN
Model F8E208-BLK
Keyboard Connection Type
Keyboard Interface AT + PS/2

http://www2.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16823154003

Logitech Premium Optical Wheel Mouse 930995-1403 Black 3 Buttons 1x Wheel USB + PS/2 Optical Mouse
Model #: 930995-1403
Item #: N82E16826104165
Brand Logitech
Name Premium Optical Wheel Mouse
Model 930995-1403
Interface USB + PS/2

http://www2.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16826104165

Thanks ahead to anyone who looks this over or has any suggestions.
 
Praetor

Praetor

Administrator
Staff member
Follow up on last thread as I made some editions. Again I plan to use this for lots of typing, gaming, and burning CDs/DVDs.
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Interesting that the case is the first thing on your mind... ;)

<>PROCESSOR<>
ABIT FATAL1TY AN8 Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard
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1. That's not a processor
2. You can do much better than the Fatal1ty board :) (look at the MSI and DFI boards)

<>PROCESSOR<>
AMD Athlon 64 3800+ Newcastle 1GHz FSB 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor
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For the 3800 you should consider the Venice or at least Winchester :)

GIGABYTE Geforce 6800Ultra 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI-Express x16 Video Card
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Your money but you're paying an extra $200 for about 75/50MHz that you can OC yourself :)

2x Western Digital Caviar SE WD2500JD 250GB 7200 RPM 8M Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive
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You might want to consider the DiamondMax10s with 16MB cache (see the HDD101)

NEC Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 4X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache IDE DVD Burner
Click to expand...
Solid drive, dont forget to update to the latest firmware

CTX VL701B Black 17" CRT Monitor 0.27mm Dot Pitch D-Sub
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0.27 is really crummy for a CRT ... shoot for 0.25 or lower (hell I have a 0.25 here from 1997)

Logitech Premium Optical Wheel Mouse 930995-1403 Black 3 Buttons 1x Wheel USB + PS/2 Optical Mouse
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Haha logitech and their names ... you might conider a different mouse if you're a mousey type of person (nothing wrong with that one tho)

why did you make another thread, putting it at the ned ofyour other one would of been fine
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Merged
 
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Happy_Demon

New Member
All right, I made changes to the motherboard, monitor, hard drive, and video card. Just want to make sure that these are compatible with everything else. Thanks to all who helped so far.
 
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Happy_Demon

New Member
Okay, I changed the mouse to:

Logitech MX510 931162-0403 Blue 8 Buttons 1x Wheel USB + PS/2 Optical Mouse - Retail

Model #: 931162-0403
Item #: N82E16826104151

Brand: Logitech
Name: MX510
Model: 931162-0403
Interface: USB + PS/2
Hand Orientation: Right
Tracking Method: Optical
Buttons: 8
Scrolling Capability: 1x Wheel
Features: Image Processing: 5.8 megapixels/sec; Resolution: 800 dpi; Acceleration: 15g; Speed: 40 inches/sec; Eight pre-programmed button functions; Gaming-tuned software drivers; Quick Switch program selector; Fast Net navigation; High-precision scrolling; Cruise Control scrolling system; Right-hand control grip; Reflex finish

http://www2.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16826104151
 
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