e4500 or X2 5000 Black edition???

Well the AM2+ boards will have the upgraded Hypertransport, PCIe 2.0, and you will be able to raise and lower the MHZ and voltage separately with each core, the memory controller will accecpt upto DDR2 1066 instead of just DDR2 800.
 
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X2 5000+ Black Edition is based on 65nm process and G2 stepping which lets it OC from 2.6GHz to 3.225GHz on default voltage with stock heatsink +fan, it doesn't just feature an unlocked CPU multiplier. If you get a high-performance aftermarket heatsink+fan such as Ninja Plus Rev.B you OC it to around 3.6GHz with 1.525v. (New builds, you must let your system sit in room temp for a good 72 hours for AC5 to completely break-in THEN begin OC)

Now, imagine what this CPU can do with peltier or water-cooling.
 
according to tomshardware 5000+ black edition @ 3.3GHz was only 2% faster than stock 6000+

So, you might be able to overclock it to 3.6GHz, but it doesn't scale very well at high clock speed. In other words, if you overclock E4500 to 3.0GHz it would perform on par with 5000+ @ 3.6 or 3.7GHz (if not better)
 
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X2 5000+ Black Edition is based on 65nm process and G2 stepping which lets it OC from 2.6GHz to 3.225GHz on default voltage with stock heatsink +fan, it doesn't just feature an unlocked CPU multiplier. If you get a high-performance aftermarket heatsink+fan such as Ninja Plus Rev.B you OC it to around 3.6GHz with 1.525v. (New builds, you must let your system sit in room temp for a good 72 hours for AC5 to completely break-in THEN begin OC)

Now, imagine what this CPU can do with peltier or water-cooling.
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that sounds interesting, but since we are on the topic of overclocking now, if i DO get the E4500, can anyone give me a ballpark estimate of what i could get with this cooler: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16835186134

and this motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813128059
 
Conclusion - An Ideal Upgrade CPU

AMD's Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Black Edition comes with one unbeatable advantage that no other AMD processor in recent memory has ever had. This $130 CPU sports an unlocked multiplier, which unlike that of the 6400+, is actually usable thanks to the CPU's enormous overclocking potential.
The unlocked multiplier allows the CPU to be overclocked without forcing the remaining components to operate outside their normal parameters. This means that the FSB, PCI bus and memory all run at their default frequency and voltage.
The 5000+ Black Edition is the ideal choice for users who wish to upgrade their existing AM2 systems. Thanks to its low power dissipation even when overclocked, buying a new cooling solution is unnecessary. Furthermore, the low heat generation also means the system will not become much noisier as a result of your overclocking experiments.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/10/22/budget_overclocker/index.html
 
well i have an AMD 5000+ in this computer now and its a great cpu for the money IMO....i was going to get an e4500 myself but the guy that i was talking to said un-overclocked the 5000+ beats the e4500 bench marks but he didnt know what one was better when overclocked...so i dont know there both amazing processors i would say get the 5000+ just cause i have it now =) lol
 
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