E6600 High Temps

Grey410

Grey410

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Gah I'm stumped. I had the CNPS9500 Zalman on my E6600 and felt I was getting too high of temps due to it wiggling around. Idle was 45C and load about 55C. So I just bought and installed a Scythe Mine 1100 on it which does not wiggle around at all. Now my temps are about 43C Idle and 53C Load. Could my sensor be wack? I'm just kinda trippin out over this because I see a lot lower temps from other Scythe Mine owners and C2D cpu's. Any thoughts suggestions? I'm using AS5 as well. According to Intel the CPU is well within norms. As they state as long as it's below 60C it's well within norms. Could my CPU just run hotter than other E6600's?:eek:
 
I believe so.

I put a strip of AS5 down the center of the CPU like AS5 recommends. The fins of the HSF never get extremely warm. I am always able to comfortably hold the fins and the pipes. I have 4 cases fans and my chipset is only 32C. I'm pretty stumped. :confused:
 
Grey410 said:
I put a strip of AS5 down the center of the CPU like AS5 recommends. The fins of the HSF never get extremely warm. I am always able to comfortably hold the fins and the pipes. I have 4 cases fans and my chipset is only 32C. I'm pretty stumped. :confused:
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Firstly....your temps aren't that bad....

Secondly, are you sure you put the strip of AS5 the right way?

If you put too much or too little, it could also affect CPU temps.


Also, what is the temp of the room that the computer is in? What are your case temps?
 
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Angel.of.Death said:
What does it read in the BIOS? You should try some other temp monitoring softwares. Also, try updating your BIOS.
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It reads fairly consistent from 41C - 44C in my bios. I am currently updating my Bios Rev as a new one was just released last week. Thanks for reminding me of that. Will post back with any changes.

I've tried Sensor View Pro, Everest Home, and the Intel TAT, as well as the ASUS PC Probe II all are within 1-2C of each other. Basically 41-44C Idle and 51-53C Load. It does seem to be settling towards 50C under load I guess the AS5 could be bonding ?
 
computermaineack said:
Firstly....your temps aren't that bad....

Secondly, are you sure you put the strip of AS5 the right way?

If you put too much or too little, it could also affect CPU temps.


Also, what is the temp of the room that the computer is in? What are your case temps?
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His temps are bad for a C2D. And try like millions of programs, if they all say the same thing, then something is wrong with your sensor.
 
hmm... I wouldnt know why the temps were that high with the 9500 in the first place.. I use it on my 4800+ ( Vcore on 1.62Volt atm) and its running at 41*C (while overclocked to 2.7GHz instead of the original 2.4GHz )

but then, i didnt use AS5, but the Zalman ZM-STG1 ( wich is a lot easyer to apply imo) but that shouldnt make too much of a difference.


are you sure your cpu cooler gets cool air from the outside?
 
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Archangel said:
hmm... I wouldnt know why the temps were that high with the 9500 in the first place.. I use it on my 4800+ ( Vcore on 1.62Volt atm) and its running at 41*C (while overclocked to 2.7GHz instead of the original 2.4GHz )

but then, i didnt use AS5, but the Zalman ZM-STG1 ( wich is a lot easyer to apply imo) but that shouldnt make too much of a difference.


are you sure your cpu cooler gets cool air from the outside?
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I have 120mm fan blowing in from the back and 2 80mm fans blowing in from the front. I have a fan on the top 80mm blowing out also. I had a side fan 80mm blowing in the but the Mine is too big to have it there now. My PSU has a 120mm blowing out sucking from right above the CPU. The Mine has a 120mm on it. I put the AS5 on in a vertical stripe going toward the top of my case (correct?). Is my induction/exhaust setup ok? Thanks! :confused: \

To Burgerbob I've tried about 6 diff programs and the bios seems to agree. Do you think my sensor is bad? Maybe I'll get a laser thermometer and check it LMAO.
 
the 120mm in the back should be sucking the air out, since the 9500 blows the air towards the back too. cooling is not only a matter of getting cold air towards the heatsink, but also of removing the hot air from the heatsink asap.
Keep the fron fans as Intakes,.. turn the 120mm on in the back around so it blows the air out, and make sure the fan in the Scythe is blowing towards the back of the case too... that should really help a lot :)
 
Neato

I just found this program for measuring the Core temps aptly named Core Temp. The article explaining it is also a good read. I'm interested to see if there is a difference between this program and the others I use. As I suspect my motherboard temps are out to lunch. I am impressed that this guy wrote this program based on the his own findings and assumptions and how much information he gathered to do it. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=103638

*** Sorry for the double post. ***
 
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Grey410 said:
It reads fairly consistent from 41C - 44C in my bios. I am currently updating my Bios Rev as a new one was just released last week. Thanks for reminding me of that. Will post back with any changes.

I've tried Sensor View Pro, Everest Home, and the Intel TAT, as well as the ASUS PC Probe II all are within 1-2C of each other. Basically 41-44C Idle and 51-53C Load. It does seem to be settling towards 50C under load I guess the AS5 could be bonding ?
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Your temps arent THAT bad...

Maybe your AS5 is still bonding... Leave you comp on for about 4-5 days and then see.
 
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Update on the temps. It looks like my new Scythe Mine has lowerd my temps as well as moving my computer to a different room. Upon moving the computer I noticed the temps drop as follows:

Old Room (Office)
Idle 44-46C
Load 52-55C

New Room (Bedroom)
Idle 37-40C
Load 47-50C

When I initially moved rooms it was still around 51-54C but after letting the AS5 bond I think it's getting better and better. Now I don't see over 50C at any time. Thanks for all the input and advice/help guys! I will update this with gaming results after a few. :P :D
 
well, it could be the IHS. i mean its got a layer of thermal compound between the cores and the integrated heatsink that sits on top of it.
taking it off is risky though, since the IHS is there to keep the sensitive cores from being damaged... though they used to produce cpu's without IHS's all the time.

what are you using to report temps? because i find that TAT gives readings much higher than speedfan and the bios, which use a sensor on the motherboard. the temperature on the cpu core will be the one taken by TAT since its a program made by intel. as long as its below 60C it shouldn't be in any danger really.
you might try putting the heatsink back on, this time with less thermal compound. the AS5 actually has a thermal conductivity rating of about 9, whereas pure copper has a rating around 80 or so... the more contact with the copper the better, AS5 is only meant to fill in the gaps.
btw AS5 doesnt EVER bond with the cpu... if you run a dual prime95 test and max the temps overnight and then turn the comp off and let it cool to room temperature it excercises the compound though.
basically heat = movement and movement = AS5 fills in the cracks and lets the copper contact with the cpu instead of the compound... then letting it cool to room temp stops the movement and settles the compound.

this "settling" process could take up to 200hrs. (8 and 1/3 full days)
 
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fade2green514 said:
well, it could be the IHS. i mean its got a layer of thermal compound between the cores and the integrated heatsink that sits on top of it.
taking it off is risky though, since the IHS is there to keep the sensitive cores from being damaged... though they used to produce cpu's without IHS's all the time.

what are you using to report temps? because i find that TAT gives readings much higher than speedfan and the bios, which use a sensor on the motherboard. the temperature on the cpu core will be the one taken by TAT since its a program made by intel. as long as its below 60C it shouldn't be in any danger really.
you might try putting the heatsink back on, this time with less thermal compound. the AS5 actually has a thermal conductivity rating of about 9, whereas pure copper has a rating around 80 or so... the more contact with the copper the better, AS5 is only meant to fill in the gaps.
btw AS5 doesnt EVER bond with the cpu... if you run a dual prime95 test and max the temps overnight and then turn the comp off and let it cool to room temperature it excercises the compound though.
basically heat = movement and movement = AS5 fills in the cracks and lets the copper contact with the cpu instead of the compound... then letting it cool to room temp stops the movement and settles the compound.

this "settling" process could take up to 200hrs. (8 and 1/3 full days)
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That would be my meaning of "bonding" but thanks for explaining it better.:P

I'm happy with the temps now. During a hardcore game of Company of Heroes my temps are 40C-42C with occasional spikes to 45C. F@H with both cores and my GPU is 48C.

I'm using TAT and Core Temp v0.93 which both measure the core but my mobo sensor says the same. So I guess the 9500 and my Office were just too hot. With the 9500 and my comp being in my office my temps were as high as 58C. But it's all good now.
 
The 120mm in the back is supposed to blow out :P Air in the front, lower side, out the back and top.
 
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