G2A legal?

Discussion in 'Computer Games and Consoles' started by Punk, Jan 28, 2015.

  1. G80FTW

    G80FTW Active Member

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    Theres a difference between running out of keys, and selling bad/stolen keys....

    To my knowledge, Steam has never sold "bad" keys.

    And then here is the other issue I have, the reason it is cheaper is because you are only buying keys, not the actual game. So, if you wanna be legit about it then you have to have bought the game from another source, and if you had bought the game from another source it would have came with a key to begin with. So the only real reason to buy a key without the game, is because the game is not a legit copy.
     
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  2. Punk

    Punk Moderator Staff Member

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    What the hell are you talking about?

    Everything you buy on G2A is legit, the only difference is that the keys comes from other sellers, hence why you have to pay for the VAT. Most of the sellers buy a bunch of keys during Steam/Origin sales then sell them on G2a when there are no sales. You're also only buying keys on Steam and origin, the only difference is that G2A doesn't have it's own gaming software with a library that makes your game magically appear as soon as you've completed your purchase.
     
  3. voyagerfan99

    voyagerfan99 Master of Turning Things Off and Back On Again Staff Member

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    That looks like some good customer service :good:
     
  4. Punk

    Punk Moderator Staff Member

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    Went for the refund and I'll just buy another key. I'd like to point out that this is some good customer service especially since I hadn't purchased the G2A shield when I got the keys :)
     
  5. G80FTW

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    Your not only buying keys on Steam and Origin.....otherwise you wouldnt have a game that you just bought...and also a link was just posted where they were selling games without keys...

    And obviously not EVERYTHING you buy on G2A is legit, otherwise this wouldnt have happened is all Im saying.

    My point is, there is no reason to buy keys if you bought the game. Which is why I would be very cautious of sites that only sell keys, because things like this happen and you end up paying for stolen product. You may have got a refund, and thats great. But that doesnt take away from the illegitimacy. Its like a pawn shop I suppose, except that pawn shops get to keep stolen property.
     
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  6. Darren

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    You're not making any sense. You talk like keys and games are different. They're not. A key gives you access to the game. If you have a game on Steam or Origin you have a key that you bought with that too. You can't have a game without a key on Steam/Origin.

    "No reason to buy keys if you bought the game." What does that even mean? You can't buy a game without a key on an digital distribution site. When you buy a game on Steam you're purchasing a key that gives you access to the software. Sure with Steam it's more "legit" as you say because you're purchasing it from the people that also distribute the software, but you're still buying a key just as you would with G2A.
     
  7. Punk

    Punk Moderator Staff Member

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    Yeah, exactly what I tried to explain to him ealier...

    On a side note, I got my refund + 5$ discount :)
     
  8. G80FTW

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    Im making complete sense because we are saying the same thing.... No reason to buy keys, because the game comes with a key when you buy it. So, what I am asking, is why you would buy a key separate from the game.

    If your buying the key on a website for a fraction of the cost of the game itself, then where would you get the game? It seems rather pointless to me to buy a key from a website which doesnt offer a physical or digital copy of the game with the key you purchased, like Steam does. So in logical terms, it is you who is trying to separate the key and the game.

    http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/too-good-to-be-true-read-this-before-buying-discounted-game-keys/
     
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  9. voyagerfan99

    voyagerfan99 Master of Turning Things Off and Back On Again Staff Member

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    You buy the key off the third party website and activate it on the game client (Steam, Origin, uPlay, etc.). DUH! :cool: That's what the "Activate a Product on Steam" menu selection is for.

    Once you activate the key, the game is added to your game library and you can download it and play it.
     
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  10. G80FTW

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    Do those all accept third-party keys though? From what I read, some dont. And then theres still the chance of buying bad keys from a third party...
     
  11. voyagerfan99

    voyagerfan99 Master of Turning Things Off and Back On Again Staff Member

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    Depends on if the client has the game for sale or not. If they don't sell it, then you can't activate it on the game client.

    Also, even if it sells the game, you can't swap keys (you can't use an Origin key on Steam, vice versa - the key is specific to the client).

    As for buying the bad key, that's a risk you need to be willing to take. That's why 2A has the shield protection - if you have an issue with a key you bought, you get a replacement or refund like Ben did. Though I personally try to buy direct from G2A when I buy game keys off there.
     
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  12. G80FTW

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    I guess I dont buy enough games to want to risk losing any money on it. Its good that he got a refund, however this may not always be the case..

    I actually havent bought any games for PC since the PS4 came out.
     
  13. Punk

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    No it will probably not always be the case but I guess that's since Uplay removed quite a few keys they had to do something. If it was an isolated incident I don't think I would have gotten a refund... :good:
     
  14. Aastii

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    No

    https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7480-wusf-3601

    Any of these games can be activated on Steam. When you enter the key, it appears in your Steam library. You can then download the game, update the game, mod the game, whatever, at this point there is zero difference between buying a copy through Steam, or via the key.

    When you buy a physical copy of a game that must be activated through Steam, as soon as you walk out of the shop, the disc that comes with it is useless. You activate the key through Steam, Install some of the content from the disc and then the rest will download, along with the day one patches and DLC that are becoming more and more common... Again, at this point there is zero different between buying a physical copy, or through Steam, or via a key.


    Aside from that there are other uses. For instance, I have Warcraft 3 + TFT, but I cannot find my booklet that came with WC3. Since you need to activate WC3 to play TFT online, my online TFT is pretty much useless. If I so chose, I could buy a key for WC3 and use it to play. Don't have to go to the shop to get a copy, don't have to wait for it to be shipped, I already have the physical media, all I needed was another key.


    There are indeed some dodgy sites out there, but you get dodgy ebay sellers, dodgy shops on the street, dodgy etailers... If there is a way to make money in a dubious way, someone will find it. Just because there is "a guy" selling stolen TV's in a back alley does not make all electronics retailers sketchy as well. The same is true here.

    All that has been displayed by G2A is a distribution hitch. Something similar happened to Sniper Elite 3 where a shipment was stolen and the keys sold on. These were caught and banned, HOWEVER, unlike Ubisoft, Rebellion and 505 actually helped out the customers and retailers, not just remove the game with no explanation.

    The people at fault here are not G2A, who from what Punk has said have been awesome throughout this, it is partly down to those that dubiously sold the keys, but mostly down to retailers and publishers. If they released the games at the same prices throughout the world, rather than cheaper elsewhere, this sort of practice would not happen, and everyone would benefit. When you pay you 70 bucks for a game, it is being sold in India, Russia and throughout Africa for 20. Explain how buying from a "legit" source is fair when you are getting charged 3+x more for an identical product, and how obtaining it for a price closer to it's actual value is somehow bad?
     
  15. Darren

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    That^
     
  16. Darren

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    Just got a 30 day free sub to G2A shield. They're trying to do damage control.
     
  17. Darren

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    Welp I just purchased 180 days of WoW game time on there. After doing a questionable key redemption process involving screen sharing with a representative, they sent me a key. I added it to my account and it showed up as "pending". Got an email this morning saying there was a problem and contacting Blizzard and they told me the key was fraudulent. I purchased G2A shield with it and contacted G2A. They told me to take it up with the seller first. I'll probably end up with a refund at some point. More just of an annoyance.

    I did pay 50 USD for 6 months of game time, when it's normally 15 dollars a month. Get the short end of the stick sometimes when you're bargain hunting.
     
  18. C4C

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    Tells me to steer clear of G2A... I'll stick to grocery stores (like Walmart) and Amazon for disk/DRM-free downloads haha..

    Edit: Humble Bundle does deals too though... Almost forgot about them.. https://www.humblebundle.com/store
     
  19. Darren

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    I was refunded within the day. I was pretty suspicious going in considering it was so flipping cheap.

    If you use the G2A shield and are willing to deal with the potential headache I think it's still worth it considering you can get really good prices a lot of the time. Shield basically guarantees it works or a refund and it's only an extra buck and change.
     
  20. voyagerfan99

    voyagerfan99 Master of Turning Things Off and Back On Again Staff Member

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    So why did you need to do screen sharing? That part confuses me.
     

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