GAMER really needs help!

[PeteMyers]

If you connect your monitor to a CRT monitor using the CRT monitor to view can you play games fast on it?

Like say you bought this alienware laptop:

17" WideUXGA 1920 x 1200 LCD Clearview Display with Built-in Camera
Intel® Pentium® 4 670 Desktop Processor w/ HT Technology 3.8GHz 800MHz FSB 2MB
256MB NVidia® GeForce™ Go 7800 GTX
Intel® 915P PCI-Express Chipset
3GB Dual Channel DDR2 SO-DIMM at 533MHz - 2 x 512MB / 2 x 1024MB
Extreme Performance (RAID 0) - 240GB (120GB x 2) 5400 RPM ATA100
8X Dual Layer DVD+/-RW / 24X CD-RW Combo w/Software
Creative Sound Blaster® Audigy® 2 ZS PCMCIA
Alienware® m7700 12-cell Lithium-Ion Smart Battery Pack
Integrated 10/1000Mb Gigabit Ethernet & 56K V.92 Modem
Internal Wireless 802.11b/g miniPCI Card
USB Floppy Drive
Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional with Service Pack 2


Okay now, I heard that playing FPS games on LCD screens are bad, like the refresh rates are low for lcds, and crt monitors are awesome with FPS games because they have high refresh rates.

I want to know if you can use a really good CRT monitor with high refresh rate playing from this laptop, will it be the same as gaming from a normal desktop HIGH-end gaming system? or does the refresh rate only go as high as the laptop's lcd.

What im saying is, since the laptop's lcd has low refresh rate, can I use a CRT monitor and set it to a high refresh rate and play games fast.

I am a really hardcore insane addicting Counter-strike player that plays CS 8-10 hours a day for the last 3 years on a really shitty Athlon xp 1600+ pc, I finally saved enough money for a high end gaming pc but then my mother said she will kick me out of the house if i bought one so I told her ill goto college next year so then she'll let me. I am going to college next year(I hope) so I was planning on buying a good laptop and a really high end gaming pc for the first time. But when I looked at the laptops, dam they are expensive! So then instead of buying a laptop and a high-end gaming system, I can buy a really high end laptop witch makes it cheaper. But then I heard about laptops having low refresh rates i wont be able to play good on the LCD, so I needed a CRT monitor with high refresh rates-I need all the FPS I can get!

 

[kof2000]

is just like plugging the crt into your system unit.

 

[Geoff]

first off, let me say that is an awesome laptop!

okay, as kof said all you need to do is plug your CRT monitor into the video out on the back of your laptop.

 

[The Astroman]

Like say you bought this alienware laptop:

17" WideUXGA 1920 x 1200 LCD Clearview Display with Built-in Camera
Intel® Pentium® 4 670 Desktop Processor w/ HT Technology 3.8GHz 800MHz FSB 2MB
256MB NVidia® GeForce™ Go 7800 GTX
Intel® 915P PCI-Express Chipset
3GB Dual Channel DDR2 SO-DIMM at 533MHz - 2 x 512MB / 2 x 1024MB
Extreme Performance (RAID 0) - 240GB (120GB x 2) 5400 RPM ATA100
8X Dual Layer DVD+/-RW / 24X CD-RW Combo w/Software
Creative Sound Blaster® Audigy® 2 ZS PCMCIA
Alienware® m7700 12-cell Lithium-Ion Smart Battery Pack
Integrated 10/1000Mb Gigabit Ethernet & 56K V.92 Modem
Internal Wireless 802.11b/g miniPCI Card
USB Floppy Drive
Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional with Service Pack 2

OMFG!!!
That is the best laptop I have ever seen. I didn't even know you could get 3 gigs of ram, a 7800 gtx and a raid 0 array and a 3.8 ghz processor in a laptop. That is really incredible. You will have no problems playing games full details on this baby.

As far as I know, plugging a CRT into your unit will give you the full refresh rate you are looking for (and resolution), as the gfx card is totally independent from the LCD screen.

BTW, what is your CS name?

 

[sbeast64]

Dare I ask the $$$ for that laptop?

 

[Derrick]

I really wanna know that too

 

[Blue]

If you where to hook your laptop up to a CRT monitor then It should be for the reason of using a bigger screen mainly.

Question... Do you see blurring in your games?

I wish I could get my hands on whomever started the FPS and LCD crap in the first place cause I would set him straight before it all got started . LCDs are known for blurring which is caused by slow response times but of course faster LCDs don't suffer from this. FPS and refresh rates are different. People assume because a monitor is running at 75 Hertz that the games FPS is going to be 75FPS I guess (not true). Fact is a screen running at 75 Hertz will still let a game run well over that for FPS. Example I can run Quake 3 over 200 FPs at a refresh rate of 75 Hertz. If you use VSync in a game though it will however then limit the game to 75FPS which would be same as the Hertz (assuming a screen is running at that).

My point is unless Alienware put a piece of crap screen on your laptop then yea play on a CRT but you wont get higher FPS. However as I doubt Alienware did that . I would play with your current LCD and enjoy. However if you are wanting a bigger screen then get a CRT or LCD that is of course external and hook it up and enjoy.

No Hooking up your computer to a CRT will not make it run faster and wont give you higher FPS. Your video adapter is what is going to give you higher FPS and make your game run faster along with CPU, Memory etc.

Edit:

Oh yes. What is your screen refresh rate? When I used a CRT I ran it at 75Hertz even though it could run higher because well 75 hertz is perfect for me. Also My new LCD is running at 75 Hertz right now which is the highest it can run but still you see I was happy with that before and I'm still happy . Also refresh rates on a LCD mean practically nothing compared to CRTs. Refresh rate is how often a picture is drawn on your screen and CRTs can flicker cause eye strain and headaches etc. LCDs however don't refresh like this. they remain a constant picture on the screen drawn by a set number of lit pixels until the information that is going to those pixels change. It is at this point individual pixels will switch colors to represent the latest image (this is referred to as response) The faster the response the faster a pixel can change color and the less likely you are to get ghosting/blurring. Point is low refresh rates are OK for LCDs but it's nice to keep to around 60-75 Hertz anyhow. Only time a games FPS runs at the same as a screen refresh is when VSync is used and most games don't even have that option. Also it is an option that makes for poor performance and most prefer not to use it. If you where to use Vsync in a game then you would want a refresh rate of about 60-75FPS because you don't want low FPS. Even 60 FPS in a game is plenty for most and makes for a smooth running game.

 

[spacedude89]

Yea, Pretty much what blue said. If they sell you a gaming laptop, they arent going to give you a screen that you cant game with.

 

[CmoAMD]

I am a really hardcore insane addicting Counter-strike player that plays CS 8-10 hours a day for the last 3 years

Can someone say Cal-P, jesus you must own.

 

[Blue]

Alright here we are. I would like to point out a couple of things to the following picture.

First myth... FPS and refresh rates are the same. Nope as you can see in the following picture that this is untrue. The refresh of my monitor is set to 60 Herts not 75 and the games FPS are locked at 125 using the console command /com_maxfps 125 (default would be 90 I think).

Second myth... LCD's look like crap when not running at their Native resolution. Not necessarily no. The following picture the game was set to 1152x864 for my example. The resolution of my LCD is 1280x1024 and the game looks great, for such a dated engine that is.

Edit:

I updated the picture because the last one was lower quality settings in game. There seems to be a bug prob. with my drivers that make me have to set the quality settings in game several times before it actually applys them. Once I close the game and play again I have to start this process over again. This is really annoying! but anyhow the same rules apply with this picture.

 

[PeteMyers]

Yeh dude i get ya, but i heard from some dude that when you connect your laptop to a crt monitor the info from the laptop sends it slow to the crt monitor and i lose fps, i dunno maybe that dude was wrong. When i play on LCD its so different, like theres delays in my screen, its just so uncomfortable and wierd. My friend ksharp one of the best cs players in the world he says LCD's have a delay in screen updating that makes it undesirable for most fps games, LCD's have a slower refresh rate usually so they cause a ghosting image of whatever it is that's on your screen, CRT's dont have this problem! LCD's still aren't even close to CRTs as far as gaming is concerned. He says If i dont play with a CRT I will never meet him at the World Cyber Games!-ill never be a pro gamer!-mydreams wont come true!

 

[Blue]

Yeh dude i get ya

No you did not.

Yeh dude i get ya, but i heard from some dude that when you connect your laptop to a crt monitor the info from the laptop sends it slow to the crt monitor and i lose fps, i dunno maybe that dude was wrong.

I would imaging he was wrong.

My friend ksharp one of the best cs players in the world he says LCD's have a delay in screen updating that makes it undesirable for most fps games, LCD's have a slower refresh rate usually so they cause a ghosting image of whatever it is that's on your screen, CRT's dont have this problem!

So you did not learn anything from what I have said here today about refresh rates or you don't want to believe me?

He says If i dont play with a CRT I will never meet him at the World Cyber Games!-ill never be a pro gamer!-mydreams wont come true!

I think that is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. What does your monitor have to do with your ability and skill in game?

CRT's dont have this problem!

And a fast LCD does not either.

Point is you came for advice and you got pretty sound advice I think. You then dismiss this advice because your friend whom may be good at some game actualy knows little about computer hardware by the sounds of it.

LCD's still aren't even close to CRTs as far as gaming is concerned.

Could you at least explain this using some intelligence? rather then argue the fact that some friend whom is good at a game says so. Also please don't refer to the refresh rates again as this annoys me. I took all that time to explain it to you and you argue that I'm wrong but use no real logic in doing so.