Yeah, you won't need two 5970's. When a faster card come out it is not likely that you will need more than 850w.
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Yeah, you won't need two 5970's. When a faster card come out it is not likely that you will need more than 850w.
ChongDOTcom
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Will 850w be enough for me to overclock the i7-930?
Here is a 5970 review with a i7-920 at 3.36, total power pull is 530w, you will still have over 300 to spare. 850 should be fine...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2877/16
Even when they OC the card you still have 200 to spare, I think OC'ing the 5970 is a waste though, it is already fast!
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2877/16
Even when they OC the card you still have 200 to spare, I think OC'ing the 5970 is a waste though, it is already fast!
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joh06937
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totally up to you. plenty of good cases out there for you to choose from.
i am not very familiar with intel motherboards but for the ram i would go with the red mushkins. all are the same speed but the mushkins have the tightest timings.
you do not NEED it but with a splendid budget like yours, i probably (in my own opinion) would spring the extra for the liquid cooling. you could get by with air if you want though, totally up to you.
the hd 5970 in crossfire is often bottlenecked like crazy, even with good components surrounding it, and ends up performing worse than a single hd 5970.
Ok, so what you need is a build.
CPU $290 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115225&cm_re=I7-930-_-19-115-225-_-Product i7-930
Mobo $210 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...23&cm_re=gigabyte_1366-_-13-128-423-_-Product Gigabyte x58
RAM $170 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...25&cm_re=6gb_ddr3_1600-_-20-231-225-_-Product 1600
PSU $130 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139009&Tpk=850TX 850tx
GPU $700 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121357&cm_re=5970-_-14-121-357-_-Product ASUS 5970
SSD $320 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...109&cm_re=KINGSTON_SSD-_-20-139-109-_-Product Kingston G2 V+ ssd 128
HDD $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533&cm_re=WD_1TB-_-22-136-533-_-Product WD 1TB B
Case $280 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...cm_re=corsair_obsidian-_-11-139-001-_-Product Corsair OB
OS $175 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...ltimate_system_builder-_-32-116-762-_-Product WY UL 64B
OD $20 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...76&cm_re=OPTICAL_DRIVE-_-27-106-276-_-Product Any
CPU Cooler $75 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...08014&cm_re=noctua_se2-_-35-608-014-_-Product Noctua SE2
Sound Card $50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829132013 ASUS 7CH
$2520, I can't believe the price is so much but you get a faster computer with a good SSD, ASUS is the best 5970 due to the 3 year to anybody without a receipt warranty. The case hurt the build plus MC has the i7-930 for $199. I did not factor rebates or look for combo deals.
Edit, your build also had a card reader. $15 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...e=card_reader_internal-_-20-223-103-_-Product
New total $2535
CPU $290 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115225&cm_re=I7-930-_-19-115-225-_-Product i7-930
Mobo $210 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...23&cm_re=gigabyte_1366-_-13-128-423-_-Product Gigabyte x58
RAM $170 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...25&cm_re=6gb_ddr3_1600-_-20-231-225-_-Product 1600
PSU $130 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139009&Tpk=850TX 850tx
GPU $700 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121357&cm_re=5970-_-14-121-357-_-Product ASUS 5970
SSD $320 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...109&cm_re=KINGSTON_SSD-_-20-139-109-_-Product Kingston G2 V+ ssd 128
HDD $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533&cm_re=WD_1TB-_-22-136-533-_-Product WD 1TB B
Case $280 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...cm_re=corsair_obsidian-_-11-139-001-_-Product Corsair OB
OS $175 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...ltimate_system_builder-_-32-116-762-_-Product WY UL 64B
OD $20 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...76&cm_re=OPTICAL_DRIVE-_-27-106-276-_-Product Any
CPU Cooler $75 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...08014&cm_re=noctua_se2-_-35-608-014-_-Product Noctua SE2
Sound Card $50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829132013 ASUS 7CH
$2520, I can't believe the price is so much but you get a faster computer with a good SSD, ASUS is the best 5970 due to the 3 year to anybody without a receipt warranty. The case hurt the build plus MC has the i7-930 for $199. I did not factor rebates or look for combo deals.
Edit, your build also had a card reader. $15 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...e=card_reader_internal-_-20-223-103-_-Product
New total $2535
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ChongDOTcom
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Thanks a lot for the advice.
Here's my new build:
Case: Cooler Master Sniper Storm- $130
CPU: Intel Core i7 930- $290
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD5 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s
Memory: Mushkin Enhanced Redline 6GB (3GBx2)- Combo with motherboard $485
SSD: Kingston SSDNow V+ Series- $320
HDD: Western Digital 1TB 5400RPM 64MB Cache- $70
Power supply: Corsair 850TX - $130
Video card: Asus Radeon HD 7950- $700
Fan: Tuniq Tower 120- $50
Optical drive: LITE-ON SATA DVD-ROM- $20
Sound card: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer- $100
Card reader: Rosewill 75 in 1- $22
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium- $100
Total: $2416
After rebates: $2336
I have a feeling I don't need an SSD. I mean that would save $320.
What do you guys think? Any comments or advice?
Here's my new build:
Case: Cooler Master Sniper Storm- $130
CPU: Intel Core i7 930- $290
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD5 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s
Memory: Mushkin Enhanced Redline 6GB (3GBx2)- Combo with motherboard $485
SSD: Kingston SSDNow V+ Series- $320
HDD: Western Digital 1TB 5400RPM 64MB Cache- $70
Power supply: Corsair 850TX - $130
Video card: Asus Radeon HD 7950- $700
Fan: Tuniq Tower 120- $50
Optical drive: LITE-ON SATA DVD-ROM- $20
Sound card: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer- $100
Card reader: Rosewill 75 in 1- $22
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium- $100
Total: $2416
After rebates: $2336
I have a feeling I don't need an SSD. I mean that would save $320.
What do you guys think? Any comments or advice?
joh06937
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whoa, a 7950? i need to get me one of those
for the ssd you could always get a regular 7200 rpm hard drive or even use raid. you won't see any performance hit in games but the total loading time for windows is longer and the loading in games (i.e. between levels or menus or something that has a loading screen) will take longer. in some other cases you'll actually see some difference, such as file transfers, but doing things like navigating through windows won't really have any noticeable benefit. i personally would just use a raid setup or go for a 10,000 rpm drive.
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mihir
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Go for this motherboard
cheap and good
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...23&cm_re=gigabyte_1366-_-13-128-423-_-Product
and the RAM I mentioned below
CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835109030
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608018
RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231254
Just for 10 Bux more
PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139013
and sound card if you need one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829271001
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mihir
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+1 the WD caviar black is a really good drive
ChongDOTcom
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Yes that's a very nice drive. I'll get that one instead. I don't think I'll go with the 950w power supply since it's unnecessary and it's actually $30 more with both rebates.
So I updated these:
HDD: WD Caviar Black- 1TB 7200RPM 64MB Cache- $100
Motherboard: Asus Maximas III Intel P55- $175
Memory: 8GB (2x4GB) OCZ Reaper Edition- $270 (I don't want to have to update my RAM a year or two later to accommodate the newest games)
Fan: Noctua NH-D14- $90
SSD: Kingston 128GB SSD- $260 (Found a cheaper version)
Sound card: None- Minus $100 (Integrated sound on motherboard will suffice)
New total: $2287
New total after rebate: $2267
I have to wonder though... when I use an SSD and a hard drive together, does this mean the data I install on the SSD will open much faster? In other words, I should install the OS and most used applications onto the SSD so they'll be zippy? And this means everything else installed on the HDD will be slower, right? I don't know if RAID is worth it, since it sounds a little unstable. I don't want to lose all my data...
What do you guys think now?
joh06937
New Member
yeah setting up raid 0 does make the chances of a failure increase.
definitely install the os and applications on the ssd and put everything else on the hdd. that way the apps and windows will be "zippy" and you will not have to try and store all of your files on such a small drive.
watch out for that open box mobo. it may not matter to you but you aren't guaranteed to get all of the accessories, one of them possibly being the i/o shield... it is a gamble.
i doubt any games will need 8gb of ram before you do a total pc overhaul again down the road but if you really need 8gb and want to spend an extra $100 then go ahead.
good choice saving money by going with onboard audio :good:
mihir
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no no nno no no no no
the board you selected is a P55 board you need an X58 board with the core i7 930
and you also need memory in multiples of 3 like 6 gb or 12gb for optimum performance since the core i7 930 has a tripple channel memory controller
and go with the 950W PSU its seriously worth the 30bucks and it will be a lot helpful in future and will save you around 150 bux if you want to go CF in the future
and go with the mushkins RAM as they are of really good quality and perform really well
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ChongDOTcom
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That sounds good then. RAID seems a bit complex for me... I can't believe I didn't see it was open-box! I would never buy used items for such an investment...
Alrighty then... Using 6GB seems like the perfect sweet-spot for me, so that'll save some money. Does anyone know the best (Or at least really good) onboard audio chips?
mihir
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Change the motherboard too and also the PSU
The motherboard is not compatible with the processor the sockets are different
P55-1156
X58-1366
and for core i7(900 series) u need - 1366