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Those who say not to get a i7 have never owned one. You try playing FSX or Skyrim, or the many other CPU dependant games without one, or see the difference when you do.

I still have 580s, and they're still tearing any game up and i still have a i7. So the money I spent 2 years ago is still providing me with a PC that is still very high end. Or you could do what PC Unicorn says and have to replace it every 2 years to keep up. Poor choice imo. I made that argument (to many others disagreement) and still stick by it.
 
For this build, I'm sticking with the i7 4770K and the 770 (or 7970). He's got the money, go for it.
 
Those who say not to get a i7 have never owned one. You try playing FSX or Skyrim, or the many other CPU dependant games without one, or see the difference when you do.

I still have 580s, and they're still tearing any game up and i still have a i7. So the money I spent 2 years ago is still providing me with a PC that is still very high end. Or you could do what PC Unicorn says and have to replace it every 2 years to keep up. Poor choice imo. I made that argument (to many others disagreement) and still stick by it.

I was the who said don't replace it every 2 years. A 780 is a good idea. If OP can afford it and not a i7, go for it.
 
To be perfectly honest with you, as I said this morning, the performance difference between the 770 and the 780 wasn't screaming to me that the 780 was worth an extra £200, but he can get the 4770K and the 780 for £1582, which is only £82 over-budget...

We haven't heard back from the OP so I say we'll leave this until the OP comes back.

My personal opinion:
If he's willing to go a bit over, yeah get the 780 (even though it's not worth £200 more than the 770) and the 4770K. Can save some money elsewhere too remember (optical drive mainly).

If he's not willing to go over £1,500 - go 4770K and 770.

Just my opinions for a build of this calibre...
 
So guys upgrade to i7 and upgrade to the GTX 780 3GB :D just over the budget but what the hell lol shame spirit your not closer to me u could build it for me .any chance u can move to rotherham ,:D

NZXT Phantom 410 Case - White - No PSU

4th Generation Intel® Core™ i7 4770K 3.50GHz Socket LGA1150
ASUS MAXIMUS VI HERO Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) Motherboard
G.Skill RipJawsX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-14900C10 1866MHz Dual Channel Kit
XFX ProSeries 750W Core Edition Power Supply - 80 PLUS Bronze Certified
Samsung 840 Series 250GB Solid State Hard Drive 2.5" Basic Kit - Retail.
EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB GDDR5 or GTX 770 ?
SeagateBarracuda 7200.12 2TB 64MB Cache Hard Drive SATA 6 Gb/s 7200rpm - OEM
Corsair Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
Pioneer BDR-S07XLT 50GB 12x Internal BD Writer Retail - No Software
windows 7 OS (already got)

have i missed anything £1.559.41





























Samsung 840 Series 250GB Solid State Hard Drive 2.5" Basic Kit - Retail.
 
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Spirit is being a noob. A i5 and 780 will be much better in the long run then a i7. For example, look at a i7 2600K and 580, or a 2500K and 570. Look at the benches, that will be what it's like for a 4770 and 770 and 780 and 4670K. A easy example is: 570 and i7 are worse in Crysis 3 by at least 30 percent then 580 and i5. That is what it will be like with a 770 and i7 over i5 and 780.
 
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Spirit is being a noob. A i5 and 780 will be much better in the long run then a i7. For example, look at a i7 2600K and 580, or a 2500K and 570. Look at the benches, that will be what it's like for a 4770 and 770 and 780 and 4670K. A easy example is: 570 and i7 are worse in Crysis 3 by at least 30 percent then 580 and i5. That is what it will be like with a 770 and i7 over i5 and 780.

@wrxengland - just get the i7 and the 770. Seriously mate, look at the benches I posted earlier which compare the 770 and the 780 - you have to ask yourself is the 780 is really worth the extra £200, and the answer is no, it's not. This is usually the case for the higher end cards, the 'second best' cards are nearly always better value than the highest end cards on the market.

I'm not saying the i5 won't do the job, it will, but you've got £1,500 to spend, and yeah you could argue that you could get the 780 and only be £80 or so over budget, but you want to spend it wisely, and not waste £200 on things which won't make much of a difference.

If it was me personally, if I was doing gaming or something else quite intensive, and I had £1,500 to spend, I'd get an i7. I know the i7 doesn't make much of a difference in most games, but some games are more CPU intensive, which Okedokey pointed out.

At the end of the day, you can get an i7 4770K and 770 for £1,300 and have a cracking system. Why not go that route and end up with an awesome system but still be £200 under budget? By getting an i5 you'd only be cutting about £100 off your system. Who knows what you might want to do in the future though?

Usually it is best practice to recommend spending more on the GPU than CPU for games, and that is usually what I do, but a 4770K and a 770 is by no means going to be 'under-powered' at all. A 770 is about as powerful as the 680 and that is a powerful card and both will continue to be more than enough for a while. By buying the 780, you're not getting much more at all for your money and by the time you need to replace the 770, you would also need to think about replacing the 780 too because the performance difference between the 770 and 780 isn't huge - but the price difference is.

@PCunicorn - 'an i7', not 'a i7', ok? :P
 
Right was gonna start ordering the parts tomorrow for the build ,but cofused now being on another site and had afew comments on the build ,just a few questions for u lads ,being told the Corsair Hydro Series H60 is very noisy and not a very good cooler ,plus if i go for the i7 4770K gonna be overkilling the system ? i don.t wanna waste money wanna get it right frist time ,

here's a system another guy put forward



PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£188.39 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£63.22 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£158.64 @ Dabs)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£53.97 @ Dabs)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£103.10 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£50.20 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (£549.86 @ Dabs)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£81.47 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£77.71 @ CCL Computers)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-206MBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer (£66.96 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£68.35 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £1461.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-30 18:42 BST+0100)

If it were me I would go with this build, or even go 770 SLI for an extra £150. You don't need the i7 for gaming, and I threw in a much better, quieter and safer cooler - even if it is a tad big.
 
True you don't need the i7 for gaming, but read what I said before about getting the i7 on your budget and how the 780 is not worth the extra £200. If you really wanted to save money go i5 and 770.

But it's a great system with the i5 and the 780.
 
Cheers spirit for your help yet again, what about the Corsair Hydro Series H60 is it noisy and does it cool well ,plus i'm sticking with the i7 and 770 like u said
 
Cheers spirit for your help yet again, what about the Corsair Hydro Series H60 is it noisy and does it cool well ,plus i'm sticking with the i7 and 770 like u said

No problem mate and I'm not an expert on CPU cooling. That's just one I chose because it seemed good. I think it's supposed to be a pretty good cooler.

If you're not sure you can always use the stock cooler for the time being and then buy into aftermarket cooling later on.

Yeah with regards to the i7 you've got the money, even if it is overkill, and the 770 is a powerful card. If the 780 was cheaper I would be pushing you more towards it, but it's £200 more than the 770 and by the time you're looking at replacing the 770 you'd probably be looking at replacing your 780 too.
 
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