greenhorn attempts project

Benny Boy

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Hello,
I'm very new to computer hw and how to assemble/build a pc. Im not an assembler and i won't be a builder either, when this project to done. I never will be, and i respect those that are by acknowledging this fact.:good:

There's a plithera of info in posts and sticky's and ill be referring to those as well. I know some basic stuff about what some of the main parts do and what they are for, and ive read up on a few tech things the last two weeks to get me where i am. Which is still nothing.:confused: But, i'd like to try to assemble one because my 10 yr old lumbering dinosuar is leaving and i may be able to get more bang for my buck. ANYTHING, as you've already seen, would be a gargantuan upgrade.:rolleyes:I knowww, how embarrassing hehe.:( But at least i'm here now, to seek opinions, possible guidance, to learn from other's, and circumvent the learning curve time frame that it would normally require.:D I can always research if i dont understand what a reply may convey, and i'm savvy enough to learn quickly.

I have a low budget tho, so buying a white box, or sale item may be better, lets let the pro's decide. If i had to use a budget number, i would say $350.

I'd be the only user. Along with a few start-up programs and a couple more i may start manually, what i use it for is online card games, light photo processing, i may have two browsers open with several windows & tabs, emailing, may have 3 or 4 devices connected with programs open for them, along with printer, the all in 1 at the same time, etc,,I think you get the picture, that kind of amateur stuff. :)I want it to keep up of course, with some reserve so it isnt overworked.

Besides what to do when it's ready to be fired up ( tests, updates, etc), picking the processor has of course been the challenge. Some appear the same but are different, and unless you know what those and other differences are, you can't make an informed decision.

No special gamimg or home theater stuff right now. May do something in the future with the HT and i think the board i picked will support it.

Thank you in advance.

Here's what my feeble brain has came up with.:P

APEVIA Black SECC Steel / Aluminum X-MASTER-BK/500 ATX (w/ 500w psu -and 2 of the 4 case fans)
http://www.apevia.com/productsInfo.asp?KEY=X-Master-BK/500
psu amd 2 fans installed, not a lot of extra bays i wont be using, form factor, and = $50. psu is a concern.

Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H (rev.1.3) = $67. already purchased.
http://gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3396#ov

AMD Phenom X4 9950 Black Edition Agena 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 125W
Quad-Core Desktop Processor HD995ZXAJ4BGH - OEM = $76.
AMD Phenom 9850 Quad-Core Black Edition 2.5GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 125W HD985ZXAJ4BGH = $76.
AMD Phenom X3 8750 Black Edition Toliman 2.4GHz Socket AM2+ 95W Triple-Core Processor HD875ZWCJ3BGH - OEM = $60.
AMD Athlon X2 7850 2.7 GHz Processor Black Edition AM2+ L2 - 2 x 512 KB - L3 cache - 2 MB ( 2 x 1 MB ) AD785ZWCJ2BGH 95W. $52. or less.
compare: http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUSideBySide.aspx?id=396&id=447&id=462&id=535

Value Ram of some brand 2GB (1x1) kit dual channel 240-pin pc2-8500 DDR2 1066mhz 5-5-5-15 DIMM? = $55.?
board is good for 16gb. can add more of diff brand as long as the numbers match up?

DVD/CD All-In-1= $25.

possible to temporarily scavenge my old pc for any of these? read that hdd is a possibility.
WD 60gb 5400 ATA100,(has xph sp3)
Gforce 2 MX200 32MB AGP CARD W/ TV OUT
56K PCI WINMODEM
INTOTEL 10/100 PCI ETHERNET ADAPTER


TOTAL THUS FAR $ 270. ALLOWING $30. FOR 2 FANS AND INCIDENTALS = APPROX. $300.
W.D. BLUE CAV. 500GB 7200 SATA, ADD $40. ($340)
 
Looks good, I wouldn't recommend the X3 processor though unless your getting the AM3. I'd say the X4 9950 is your best choice for processor. And if your wanting to do any gaming at all your gonna need a new video card. New motherboards don't even have AGP slots, you'll want to buy a PCI or PCI-Express card, and you can find them for cheap on newegg.com and tigerdirect.com.

Brick
 
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Are you sure about the HTPC case. It's going to make the build more difficult and limit your upgrade options in the future.
 
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Are you sure about the HTPC case. It's going to make the build more difficult and limit your upgrade options in the future.

I agree. You can find great mini-atx, mid tower, or even full tower cases for very cheap and the upgrade capabilities are a lot better.
 
Thanks xXbrick84Xx and jevery.
Mobo accepts AM2/AM2+/AM3 that's like...120 of 'em. Only gaming is online cards, onboard video is ok?
I was originally looking at this case, they call it a mid/mini atx
http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=2898
but opted for the Apevia. But I've since learned that the Cooler Master accepts the ATX size psu, which are plentiful, so im leaning towards it again. I havent fully decided, but I do like that smaller form factor for what I'll be doing. If/when i expand down the road I'll just get another case if need be, that will fit the needed HW.
What i dont like about the rc 360 is that the finish on the front will differ from whatever i put in there. I've seen some nice steel and alum. cases here on newegg and around that are tempting.
Mostly wanted to get the main HW decided on, take a look at cost, then go from there.
And ive decided to add more $ for quality psu, ram. & perhaps case.

I have a couple questions:
can i use an ata hdd on this mobo? if so is it a ata to sata adapter?
and what about any drivers on it? if can do, then will be formatted to fact. xph setting.
is bigger better? is 1066 faster for my use then say..800?
thanks Ben
 
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Onboard video will be sufficient for your needs.

The MB supports IDE, (ATA), and SATA drives per this Storage Interface spec, "1 x IDE connector supporting ATA-133/100/66/33 and up to 2 IDE devices," - I guess, by definition, it is an adapter, that's built into the MB. It should be Plug and Play - No software drivers should be needed. Not sure what you mean by, "formatted to fact. xph setting."

Yes, 1066 bus speed, RAM, whatever, is going to be better, (faster), than 800.
 
Thank you for looking that hdd info up for me jevery, and the other info as well. I just meant that the hdd has a lot of remnants on it, so ill transfer what i want and wipe it clean back to the o/s that was on it when i got it since im not investing in win. 7 right now. and when i do, which will be next, ill just use the old hdd for storage.

thanks.
 
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