HD 4670 needs to go...

Okay I planned on getting the 4830 today but then I got an email advertising these "great deals!"

http://www.newegg.com/Store/Brand.aspx?Brand=1561&name=Sapphire-Tech

Obviously I can't afford and would be pointless to get the cards above 100 but since I'm already paying 70 bucks for the used 4830 would it be worth it to pay the extra 10 or twenty to get one of the cards on that page (which has 2 year warranty)? Are they better? Worse? Worth the extra bills? I don't know what the difference is between a 4830 and a 5770. It looks to me like the higher the number, the more expensive, and therefore the better?

So far I'm leaning towards the 5570.

Thanks.
 
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the 5770 will have much better performance, dx11, and eyefinity. if you ONLY plan on playing the sims, then the 4830 will do. however, i doubt it will play very many newer games that are already out.
 
Aastii said:
If all you are playing is sims 3, you don't need a 4850, it would be huge overkill and a waste of money, as would a 5770. My 8600GT SLI ran Sims 3 at full settings, and they are crap by the standards of today, and even at the time weren't the greatest. You will be fine to get a HD3850 or 8800GT and run it on high settings without a single problem, and you can get them very cheap used.

I would like to point out, that I have a HD3870 for sale, that would play it at highest settings, and would be cheaper than a new card that you won't utilise the power of
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2nd that

8800gt or 9600gso will do just fine and can be had for $50-70 on ebay
 
durkmusic said:
What I really meant was what was the difference between all the HD #### is it generally better the bigger the number?

(I can't afford the 5770.. but I can afford the 5570)

http://cgi.ebay.com/XFX-Radeon-HD-5...tem&pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item563e7955e4

^^^That one looks good and only 20 bucks more, shipped, 1 yr warranty
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Thats a Refurb so you might as well get a used and save some money

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sapphire-Techno...tem&pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item3f020a0dc3
 
durkmusic said:
Okay I planned on getting the 4830 today but then I got an email advertising these "great deals!"

http://www.newegg.com/Store/Brand.aspx?Brand=1561&name=Sapphire-Tech

Obviously I can't afford and would be pointless to get the cards above 100 but since I'm already paying 70 bucks for the used 4830 would it be worth it to pay the extra 10 or twenty to get one of the cards on that page (which has 2 year warranty)? Are they better? Worse? Worth the extra bills? I don't know what the difference is between a 4830 and a 5770. It looks to me like the higher the number, the more expensive, and therefore the better?

So far I'm leaning towards the 5570.

Thanks.
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The 4830 is WAY stronger than a 5570. A 5570 is pretty much the equivalent of the 4670 that you have now but with DX11 which is no big deal.

Get the 4830.
 
Okay so I got the 4830 and it's not running the sims 3 at full settings well at all. Better than what I had but not good enough to run sims 3 at full settings. I even overclocked it and couldn't get it to run well on full settings. You guys said it would have no problem running sims, what am I doing wrong?
 
do you know what kind of percentage of usage you are getting? i am not familiar with sims but do you have anti aliasing enabled anywhere (ccc or in game)?
 
Okay I installed the driver you told me to install (uninstalled the "new" one first) and yes the aa is set to 8x filter edge-detect samples 24x. I monitored the gpu usage... upon loading the game it reaches near 100% usage. During gameplay it fluctuates between about 0% usage to somewhere around 60-70 which is just a peak and doesn't stay there for more than a second. The game is laggy or jumpy when I try to move the camera around. So I guess the gpu isn't being used to its fullest? How do I utilize the whole gpu?

Thanks.

Other notes:
Core clock, between 200 and 580MHz
Mem clock between 250 and 880MHz
Core Temp stays around 35C
Core temp/display IO stays around 35C
Core temp/shader core stays around 35C as well
This is all being NOT overclocked.
 
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Does it run 580 while gaming though? It should only go down to 200 when idling, thats a power saving feature. Under any load it should jump back up to 580.

New drivers made no difference?


edge-detect samples 24x
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I don't know what that even is, is it the same as anisotropic filtering (AF)? Try taking AA down to 4x, and this edge-detect samples down to like 8x or something and just see if that improves the lag.
I don't know why the GPU usage so low. With a 965 at 3.9ghz, you definitely shouldn't have any CPU bottleneck at all.
 
New drivers didn't fix it. Did what you said with the aa and all that. Nothing worked. The frequencies are high during play and low during idle like you said so that's good but as far as gameplay goes it's not doing so hot. I even lowered the settings a little bit and it's still super laggy. Takes forever to load all the objects and stuff. The core temps were reaching near 46C this time and the usage near 75% at it's peak. I mean it is just barely better than the one I had. I don't think it's anything to do with the cpu like you said... so idk... i'm lost.
 
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