hello everyone upgradeing cpu new on i have makes computer freez at startup any help

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steptoe11111

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hey guys how is every one all good i hope ill try to as brief as posible i bought a second hand cpu off ebay for my acer j88m motherbord 478 socket the computer is a acer veriton 5600g curently running a 2.4 gig celaron cpu
my new one is a pentium 4 3.0 ghz/im/800 ive already put it in and when i turn the computer on it gets to the acer screen and then freezes whithout even going through the dos setup so im wondering if the cpu (the one i got off ebay)could be cactus ??? or would it require drivers for this new cpu??? or is it not compztible with my mother board contrary to what ive read elswhere..... ive icluded some specs from pc wizard here


General Information :
Manufacturer : Acer
Product : J88M
Version : (null)
Serial Number :
Support MP : Yes, 1 CPU(s)
Version MPS : 1.4

Chassis Information :
Manufacturer : Acer
Type : Desktop
Version : AcerChassis
Serial Number : A
Asset : Unspecified

OEM Support SLIC :
HPET : No
SLIC : No

Sensor Information :
Hardware Monitoring : SMSC LPC47M192

On-Board Device Information :
Embedded Controller : No

Slots Information :
Slot PCI : 32-bit [5.0v] - Empty
Slot PCI : 32-bit [5.0v] - Empty
Slot PCI : 32-bit [5.0v] - Empty
Slot PCI : 32-bit [5.0v] - Empty
Slot PCI : 32-bit [5.0v] - Empty
Slot PCI : 32-bit [5.0v] - In Use
Slot AGP : 32-bit [5.0v] - In Use

External Connectors :
Serial 16450 Compatible : DB-9 male
Serial 16450 Compatible : DB-9 male
Parallel ECP/EPP : DB25 female
Keyboard : PS/2
Mouse : PS/2

Internal Connectors :
PRIMARY IDE : On Board IDE
SECONDARY IDE : On Board IDE
FDD : On Board Floppy
COM1 : 9 Pin Dual Inline (pin 10 cut)
COM2 : 9 Pin Dual Inline (pin 10 cut)
LPT1 : DB25 female
Keyboard : PS/2
PS/2 Mouse : PS/2

EEPROM Information :
Type : EEPROM Specific
Address : 0x57


General Information :
Type : Intel Celeron
Internal Specification : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz
Codename : Northwood
Revision : D1
Technology : 0.13µ
CPU ID : F.2.9
CPU IDEx : F.2.9
Brand ID : A
Microcode : MU0F292E
Architecture : NetBurst

Instructions :
IA-64 Technology : No
Intel64 (EM64T) : No
AVX : No
FPU128 : No
SSE5 : No
SSE4a : No
SSE4.2 : No
SSE4.1 : No
S-SSE3 : No
SSE3 : No
SSE2 : Yes
SSE : Yes
AES : No
Extended 3DNow! Technology : No
3DNow! Technology : No
3DNOW Prefetch : No
3DNow! Pro Technology : Yes
AMD MMX Technology : No
MMX Technology : Yes
Cyrix MMX Technology : No
FMA : No
OSXSAVE : No
MOVBE : No
PCLMULQDQ : No
CLF - Cache Line Flush : Yes
CX8 - CMPXCHG8B : Yes
CX16 - CMPXCHG16B : No
CMOV - Conditionnal Move Inst. : Yes
MON - Monitor/Mwait : No
POPCNT : No
RDTSCP : No
SEP - Fast System Call : Yes

Miscellaneous :
XD - No-execute Page : No
VT-x - Virtualization : No
TXT - Trusted Execution Techno... No
SVM - Secure Virtual Machine : No
FPU - Co-processor Built-in : Yes
FXSR - Fast Float Save & Restore : Yes
xTPR - Send Task Priority : Yes
DAZ - Denormals Are Zero : Yes
FFXSR : No
LAHFSAHF : No
CMPLEGACY : No
ALTMOVCR8 : No
ExtApicSpace : No
3DNow! Technology : No
PBE - Pend. Brk. EN. : No
LAHF - LAHF/SAHF Inst. : No
ABM : No
MASSE - Misaligned SSE : No
OSVW - OS Visible Workaround : No
IBS : No
P1GB - 1GB Page Size : No
SKINIT, STGI, DEV : No
WDT - Watchdog Timer : No

Features :
x2APIC : No
APIC - Local APIC Built-in : Yes
VME - Virtual Mode Ext. : Yes
DE - Debugging Extension : Yes
PSE - Page Size Extension : Yes
TSC - Time Stamp Counter : Yes
MSR - Model Specific Registers : Yes
PAE - Physical Address Extension : Yes
MCE - Machine Check Exception : Yes
MTRR - Memory Type Range Reg. : Yes
PGE - Page Global Enable : Yes
MCA - Machine Check Architecture : Yes
PAT - Page Attribute Table : Yes
PSE36 - 36-bit Page Size Extension : Yes
PSN - Unique Serial Number : No
DS - Debug Trace & EMON Store : Yes
SS - Self Snoop : Yes
ACPI - Software Clock Control : Yes
TM - Thermal Monitor : Yes
TM2 - Thermal Monitor 2 : No
EST - Enhanced SpeedStep Tec... No
HTT - Hyper-Threading : Yes
SBF - Signal Break on FERR : Yes
DSCPL - CPL qualified Debug Store : No
CID - Context ID : Yes
LT - LaGrande Technology : No
PDCM : No
DCA - Direct Cache Access : No
EPS - Enhanced PowerSaver : No

Features Hyper-Threading :
Technology : Yes - Disabled
Physical Processor #0 : Apic ID 0

Advanced Settings :
In Order Queue Depth : 12
Fast-Strings : Yes
x87 FPU Opcode : No
Thermal Monitor : Yes
Split-Lock : Yes
Performance Monitoring : Yes
Prefetch Queue : Yes
Branch Trace Storage : Yes
C1E - Enhanced Halt State : No

Mainboard Upgradeability :
Socket/Slot : Socket 478
Upgrade interface : ZIF Socket
Supported Speed : 3066 MHz (or more)
Supported Voltage : 1.5V


General Information :
Real Frequency : 2394 MHz
Multiplier : 24x
Low/High Multiplier : 24x / 24x
Multiplier Locked : Yes
Marketing Frequency : 2400 MHz

Front Side Bus Information :
Bus Speed : 99.8 MHz
FSB Frequency : 399 MHz (QDR)
Turbo Mode : No

Initial Frequencies :
Frequency : 2400 MHz
Bus Speed : 100.00 MHz (QDR)
Multiplier : 24x

Control Clock Frequency :
Type : None

Thermal Information :
Thermal control TM1 : Yes - Enabled
Thermal control TM2 : No
Thermal Control Circuit : No
Digital Thermal Sensor : No
Clock Modulation (ODCM) En... No

Processor Performance Information :
Throttle Mode AC : None
Throttle Mode DC : Adaptive
Current Configuration : None
Throttle : 2394 MHz
 
You may need a bios upgrade to support the cpu. Try resetting the cmos. Remove the power cord from the power supply then remove the battery from the motherboard, press the power button on the case a few times to discharge any remaining power. Then reinsert battery and power cable and try booting up.
 
thanks for that mate ill give it a go and let it sit over night and do what you said.... see what happens i allready tried removeing the battery but mayby not for long enogh.. i was able to get into the bios but it would freez up upon saveing and exit ... the board is a acer j88m socket 478 and every where i read sais this cpu is compatible!! and im trying to explore a few options be four i contact the person who sold it they seemed repuatable but you do get duds i supose :rolleyes:
so far the bios where would i find an update here is what im useing at tha moment: Manufacturer : Phoenix Technologies, LTD
Version : 6.00 PG
Date : 05/14/2003 (mm/dd/yyyy)
Address : 512 KB
OEM Signature : W6772IAE R01-B0 051403 16:19:54
SMBios Version : Unspecified
DMI Version : 2.2


any help is greatly apreciated as i bought this new cpu as an upgrade to try and help a slowing machien :confused: anyway thanks again guys and hope every one has a good day cheers
 
if the CPU wasent for that mobo it wouldent even boot to the bios/acer screen, it would stay black/blank.so im thinking it has to do with somthing else.

Edit-driver/s and bad ram stick/s also causes freez ups.
 
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you are legand jhonb35
ill check it out and reserch how to install it if .. i did get the procesor working it must of been the cmos like you mentiond earlyer.... ill look into that bios upgrade you mention now if i flash the bios and it renders my machine inoperable. is there a way to restore it back or will that make it --cactus--
 
The only way to fix a laptop after a bad bios update would be to send it in to get a new bios chip installed.
 
so its either hit or miss hey... normaly i dont mind takeing the chance but this is my only system ...... like i said il look into this one you mentioned here
http://support.acer-euro.com/drivers...600g.html#bios (thankyou for the link too)
but before i upgrade the bios would it be a good idea to contact acer suport first to see if they are compatible or will i get no where with them and be left waiting weeks for response.... how do i find out?? like i said hit or miss.. or is ther a compatibilty calculator
 
If the laptop is out of warranty then they will charge a fee for support. According to the website the update will work, but things can go wrong.
 
its acualy a desktop: acer 5600g
motherboard: j88m
General Information :
Manufacturer : Acer
Product : J88M
Version : (null)
Serial Number : 987654321
Support MP : Yes, 1 CPU(s)
Version MPS : 1.4

Chassis Information :
Manufacturer : Acer
Type : Desktop
Version : AcerChassis
Serial Number : A
Asset : Unspecified

OEM Support SLIC :
HPET : No
SLIC : No

Sensor Information :
Hardware Monitoring : National LM79

On-Board Device Information :
Embedded Controller : No

Slots Information :
Slot PCI : 32-bit [5.0v] - Empty
Slot PCI : 32-bit [5.0v] - Empty
Slot PCI : 32-bit [5.0v] - Empty
Slot PCI : 32-bit [5.0v] - Empty
Slot PCI : 32-bit [5.0v] - Empty
Slot PCI : 32-bit [5.0v] - In Use
Slot AGP : 32-bit [5.0v] - In Use

External Connectors :
Serial 16450 Compatible : DB-9 male
Serial 16450 Compatible : DB-9 male
Parallel ECP/EPP : DB25 female
Keyboard : PS/2
Mouse : PS/2

Internal Connectors :
PRIMARY IDE : On Board IDE
SECONDARY IDE : On Board IDE
FDD : On Board Floppy
COM1 : 9 Pin Dual Inline (pin 10 cut)
COM2 : 9 Pin Dual Inline (pin 10 cut)
LPT1 : DB25 female
Keyboard : PS/2
PS/2 Mouse : PS/2

EEPROM Information :
Type : EEPROM Specific
Address : 0x57


chipset intell: i865pe
General Information :
NorthBridge : Intel i865PE
SouthBridge : 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Interface Bridge

NorthBridge Information :
Architecture : HUB
Manufacturer : Intel (Intel)
Codename : Springdale
Revision : A2
Bus Speed : 199.5 MHz
FSB Frequency : 798 MHz (QDR)
PAT Enabled : Unspecified
FSB max. Support : 800 MHz
RAM max. Support : DDR (400 MHz)

Memory Information :
Type : DDR-SDRAM PC-2600
Frequency : 159.6 MHz
DRAM/FSB Ratio : 4/5
Supported Channels : Dual
PAT Enabled : Unspecified
ECC Diagnostic : Yes - Disabled
CAS Latency (tCL) : 2.5 clocks
RAS to CAS (tRCD) : 3 clocks
RAS Precharge (tRP) : 3 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) : 7 clocks

Bus Information :
Version : 3.0
Transfert Rate supported : 4x, 8x
Transfert Rate : 8x
Aperture Size : 128 MB
AGP enabled : Yes

APIC Information :
Version : 2.00
Maximum Interrupts : 24
IRQ Handler enabled : Yes

Hub Interface Information :
Version : 1.00
Time Slice : 0
Width : 8-bit
Full Duplex : Yes
Frequency : 4x (264 MHz)
Multiplier : 1/1x

procesor:General Information :
Type : Intel Pentium 4
Internal Specification : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Codename : Prescott
Revision : C0
Technology : 0.09µ
CPU ID : F.3.3
CPU IDEx : F.3.3
Microcode : MU0F330C
Architecture : NetBurst



and lastly bios :General Information :
Manufacturer : Phoenix Technologies, LTD
Version : 6.00 PG
Date : 05/14/2003 (mm/dd/yyyy)
Address : 512 KB
OEM Signature : W6772IAE R01-B0 051403 16:19:54
SMBios Version : Unspecified
DMI Version : 2.2

Characteristics :
Flashable : Yes
Socketed : Yes

Functionality :
APM : Yes
ACPI : Yes
ESCD : Yes
PnP : Yes
PCI : Yes
ISA : Yes
AGP : Yes
USB : Yes
PCMCIA : No
Smart Battery : No

Boot Information :
Selectable Boot : Yes
CD-ROM Boot : Yes
PC Card (PCMCIA) Boot : No
I20 Boot : No
LS-120 Boot : Yes
1394 Boot : No
ATAPI ZIP Boot : Yes


should that link to bios upgrade be compatible with these specs provided
ps im sory to waste your important time but ive never upgraded a bios before
 
I don't know why I said it was a laptop. It has nothing to do with the system specs, its all about the model number of system you have.
 
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