help with watercooling

wolfeking

wolfeking

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Okay, I had a brilliant idea, and bigfella suggested make a thread, so here it is.

It will be a while off, probably September, but I want to do a custom water cooled system with mine. I don't know anything about this, so clueless. I know I want one loop that would run the CPU, and probably RAM if that can be water cooled. One loop for 2 480s, or maybe go 3 way SLI with a Fatality board, if I can get one. Hoping to do 5GHz CPU, 1866 8-9-8-24 RAM and 900 MHz on the GPUz. Not sure how to do it though. Or what parts to get or anything. :(

I think I am going with a full tower Switch 810 in Gunmetal, so that will be what the loop will go in. Guessing 400 max budget to start with. That will give me enough to get the case and motherboard and PSU, and the loop. If it cost more, then I can get the CPU loop first and go with the GPU case, motherboard, and PSU then, then do Dual SLI and GPU loop at that time.

idk, not really sure.
 
wolfeking

wolfeking

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noted, but I can probably do 8-9-8-24 2T with what I have.

If I was to get new RAM I would want to get Patriot or Kingston. That is mainly because I like the square look. To me the rounded look of ripjaws just does not suit me.
 
Okedokey

Okedokey

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Yeah DDR3 doesn't get hot really. Not worth it. Get a loop for your CPU and a loop for your GPUs.

You'll need:

  1. 2 x 240 mm x 120mm hi flow radiators
  2. A dual bay, dual loop reservoir.
  3. Pump.
  4. CPU waterblock with 1/8 fittings
  5. 2 x GPU waterblocks with 1/8 fittings
  6. Non-conductive high quality thermal paste (thermal pads usually come with the GPU waterblocks for VRAM and chokes).
  7. Compression fittings for each of the above (1/8")
  8. 1.5 m Tubing (1/8 internal diameter)
  9. Anti-corrosive coolant
  10. Isopropyl alcohol to clean old thermal paste off

What you need to do first.

  1. Read the http://www.computerforum.com/206174-how-liquid-cooling-101-a.html
  2. Forget about silver coils - its bollocks
  3. Confirm your GPUs have a reference design (if you're unsure, pull one of the heat sink off and take a photo)
 
wolfeking

wolfeking

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okay, my GPU is reference I think. I would pull the heatsink, but I don't know how. Never worked on a GPU in the past. Ill look up a guide and come back later with that, probably late today or tomorrow (im 12 hour priming my system for OCN).

Silver sounds like it would make the water rust, doesn't it?

I have been using the same wipes that I use for my 70/30 injections to remove thermal paste. They will work for this too, yes?
GEDC0685.jpg

are the ones.

Coolant should be able to get from the same place I get the parts?

GOing to read the guide and see what I have as far as questions there first. Then Ill try and find some parts.
 
wolfeking

wolfeking

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okay, I think I have it. Pretty sure anyway. The guide was very understandable, and I will watch a few vids between now and buying to be sure of it.

Basic parts I think would be like these:
(CPU block) http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...Block_-_No_Fittings_.html?tl=g30c85s139#blank
(RAD x2) http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...HX-240HL_No_Nozzles_.html?tl=g30c95s160#blank
(pump (2?)) http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2...version_Kit_317_GPH.html?tl=g30c107s153#blank
(GPU Block) http://www.ekwb.com/shop/blocks/vga-blocks/fc-geforce/4x0-gtx-series/ek-fc480-gtx-acetal.html

I could not find the GPU block on either of the sites I was looking at, so got to search for an american company to buy from. The EK site is in euros, so I would have to apply the fees to that too. Not sure what the bank charges for international transactions, been a while on that.

does this look good so far? Still looking for reserviors and tubes and fittings and such.
 
Okedokey

Okedokey

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Yeah looks good so far. Btw where I have said 1/8 above I meant 3/8 (10mm approx).

Just google your card and make sure its reference. Google the model number on the box if possible.

You can get compression fittings here: http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g30...gs-Compression-14_x_38_Compression-Page1.html

Check that if your case will fit the horizontal fittings and the radiator length pluse 1.5 pipe width.

Otherwise get a verticial fitting rad.

Pump-housing and reservoir wise you could consider something like this http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...2-Loop_G14_-_Black_Acetal.html?tl=g30c107s152

Then buy two pumps and install them in that.

Or you could just get this http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...5_Variant_Pumps_Installed.html?tl=g30c107s152 but make sure you get the MPC655-B pumps (same as the D5).

Get Tygon hose and anticorrosive (2L) coolant.

Around 10 connectors (check).

Write yourself a diagram and post it up.
 
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wolfeking

wolfeking

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I don't know exactly what model my card is. I got it off Ebay, and all it came with was the anti-static bag and about 100x the amount of packing peanuts that it needed. It looks to be a reference EVGA though, like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130759. It looks exactly like that.

might sound like a dumb question, but why do the pumps need a housing? couldn't they be bolted to the bottom of the case as they are? If there is a reason to the housing I will get it, but i don't want to spend $90 on it if I don't have to.

the case seems to have enough room. The Newegg list says
Supports high-end water cooling solutions up to three fans for push and pull configuration: 90mm of internal top space with top 360 / 420mm and bottom 140 / 240mm radiator support for unmatched liquid cooling

Four watercooling cutouts for easy liquid cooling management on the rear panel
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Diagram, you mean like a wire diagram for the loop? like 2 dimensional?
 
just a noob

just a noob

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wolfeking said:
I don't know exactly what model my card is. I got it off Ebay, and all it came with was the anti-static bag and about 100x the amount of packing peanuts that it needed. It looks to be a reference EVGA though, like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130759. It looks exactly like that.

might sound like a dumb question, but why do the pumps need a housing? couldn't they be bolted to the bottom of the case as they are? If there is a reason to the housing I will get it, but i don't want to spend $90 on it if I don't have to.

the case seems to have enough room. The Newegg list says

Diagram, you mean like a wire diagram for the loop? like 2 dimensional?
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So you can use your own fittings, there's also some increase in performance, but not nearly as much if you were to use an aftermarket top on a ddc.

Also try looking at:
sidewindercomputers.com
jab-tech.com
aquatuning.us
 
Okedokey

Okedokey

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The housing is also the reservoir. So you need it.

Yes, draw a diagram of how you intend to connect things up.
 
wolfeking

wolfeking

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here is my diagram. H100 and air.

Sorry. But the way yall are talking Im going to end up with $1200 in cooling on a $900 computer. It would be a pyrrhic victory.
 
jonnyp11

jonnyp11

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Can't you grab extra tubing and a gpu block and make a loop that way? you'd just need a bit more fluid in there though but it seems like it'd work as long as the pump is strong enough.
 
wolfeking

wolfeking

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no. that will not work. If I am going to make my case look like a drunk man assembled it, then I might as well add some stray wires and paint it camo.

The system will just stay as it is stock. Its not worth it to change it at all.
 
just a noob

just a noob

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wolfeking said:
no. that will not work. If I am going to make my case look like a drunk man assembled it, then I might as well add some stray wires and paint it camo.

The system will just stay as it is stock. Its not worth it to change it at all.
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It has been done before, but the outcome is what you stated; it looked like ass.
 
wolfeking

wolfeking

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yea.

Im going to go through this again and see what I can find. Also going to draw up the diagram in a bit and upload it. So, be back in a few.

Also, I saw a build over at OCN where the guy used copper pipes to do his loop. How hard would that be to pull off? http://www.overclock.net/t/1212455/mkg-cosmos-ii-case-mod is it to be exact. I like the look, but not sure I could pull it off. I mean, a pipe cutter and bender is necessary, and I have both, but what size pipe, and how hard would it be to make the connection to the rads and such? Then again, I could break out the welder and use elbows. Either sounds easy enough.
 
just a noob

just a noob

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wolfeking said:
yea.

Im going to go through this again and see what I can find. Also going to draw up the diagram in a bit and upload it. So, be back in a few.

Also, I saw a build over at OCN where the guy used copper pipes to do his loop. How hard would that be to pull off? http://www.overclock.net/t/1212455/mkg-cosmos-ii-case-mod is it to be exact. I like the look, but not sure I could pull it off. I mean, a pipe cutter and bender is necessary, and I have both, but what size pipe, and how hard would it be to make the connection to the rads and such? Then again, I could break out the welder and use elbows. Either sounds easy enough.
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Guide for bending the pipe
Pipe(pretty sure it's 12mm od)
and then you use something similar to these fittings
 
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