hey im new, but i really need some help :)

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evilmoyer

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ok, so im either buying or building a new gaming pc and i need some guidence

i was looking at alienware for some and i found this system

its about 950$ and yeah...please tell me if its a good computer?


Processor: AMD Athlon™ X2 7750 Black Edition 2.7GHz Dual Core (2x 512MB L2, 2MB L3 Cache)

Alienware P2 Chassis: Alienware® P2 Chassis with AlienIce™ 3.0 Video Cooling - Space Black

AlienFX®: Alienware® Standard System Lighting - Nova Yellow
Alienware P2 Chassis Upgrades: Alienware® Standard System Cooling

Power Supply: Alienware® 750 Watt Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply

Graphics Processor: Single 512MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTS 250 - Superclocked Edition

Memory: 4GB« Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 4 x 1024MB

Motherboard: Alienware® Approved AMD® 790FX Motherboard
Includes PCI-Express 2.0, BIOS Overclocking Utility, and Support for AMD Phenom Quad-Core Processors


Operating System (Office software not included) : Windows Vista® Home Premium with Service Pack 1 – DirectX 10 Ready!

System Drive: Single Drive Configuration - 250GB SATA 3Gb/s 7,200RPM 16MB Cache

Optical Drives : Single Drive Configuration - 20X Dual-Layer Burner (DVD±RW)

Enthusiast Essentials: Single High Performance Gigabit Ethernet Port

Sound Card: High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio - Standard


thanks
 
No.
Low end CPU...
Get a cheap $70-80 AMD 770/780G mobo instead of spending money on expensive 790FX chipset. Throw the money into CPU, get Phenom IIx3 720.
PSU - Get 550W instead, as you running GTS250, you will not crossfire, 750W PSU is wasted of money.

Is it from Alienware? I think it is expensive.
 
They're good....somewhat, but you pay more for the brand name than ANY other I know of. For that price you could build something almost twice as good. That processor is quite old and you basically wind up paying for things you don't need as stated.
 
evilmoyer said:
yeah its alienware, a friend of mine told me there pretty good
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I see in the parts list you only have the hardware for a tower...no monitor, no keyboard, no speakers and no mouse? Do you have these things already?

That is old hardware for almost $1000...kinda funny actually.;)

I would not buy a computer from Alienware...buying that machine would be like throwing $500 out of your car window driving down the road. You can build a very nice tower that will crush that Alienware for the same price. It is really not very difficult to build a computer...there are many people here that can help you select parts and walk you through the build;)

If you really do not want to learn or take the time and build one...there are other sites that are better priced and have options on what you would like to have.

Have you looked at Cyberpower.com? Here is a tower I threw together quick on there for about $850. I would put my own hard drive and operating system in it but it would be much better than the Alienware:good:

# CAS: New! CoolerMaster Elite 310 Mid-Tower Case with See-Thur Side Panel
# CASUPGRADE: 12in COLD CATHODE NEON LIGHT (BLUE COLOR)
# POWERSUPPLY: 750 Watts Power Supplies (Ultra Lifetime Series Pro)
# CPU: AMD Phenom™II X3 720 Black Edition Triple-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
# FAN: CoolerMaster Hyper TX3 Gaming CPU Cooling Fan
# MOTHERBOARD: GigaByte MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 790X
# MEMORY: 4GB (2GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Module (Corsair Dominator)
# VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX260 CORE 216(Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
# HDD: Single Hard Drive (250GB SATA-II)
# CD: (Special Price) LG 22X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW
# SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
# SPEAKERS: Logitech X-240 2.1 Configuration Subwoofer Speakers System
# NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
# FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer
# SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT

# _PRICE: (+849)
 
ScOuT said:
I see in the parts list you only have the hardware for a tower...no monitor, no keyboard, no speakers and no mouse? Do you have these things already?

That is old hardware for almost $1000...kinda funny actually.;)

I would not buy a computer from Alienware...buying that machine would be like throwing $500 out of your car window driving down the road. You can build a very nice tower that will crush that Alienware for the same price. It is really not very difficult to build a computer...there are many people here that can help you select parts and walk you through the build;)

If you really do not want to learn or take the time and build one...there are other sites that are better priced and have options on what you would like to have.

Have you looked at Cyberpower.com? Here is a tower I threw together quick on there for about $850. I would put my own hard drive and operating system in it but it would be much better than the Alienware:good:

# CAS: New! CoolerMaster Elite 310 Mid-Tower Case with See-Thur Side Panel
# CASUPGRADE: 12in COLD CATHODE NEON LIGHT (BLUE COLOR)
# POWERSUPPLY: 750 Watts Power Supplies (Ultra Lifetime Series Pro)
# CPU: AMD Phenom™II X3 720 Black Edition Triple-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
# FAN: CoolerMaster Hyper TX3 Gaming CPU Cooling Fan
# MOTHERBOARD: GigaByte MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 790X
# MEMORY: 4GB (2GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Module (Corsair Dominator)
# VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX260 CORE 216(Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
# HDD: Single Hard Drive (250GB SATA-II)
# CD: (Special Price) LG 22X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW
# SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
# SPEAKERS: Logitech X-240 2.1 Configuration Subwoofer Speakers System
# NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
# FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer
# SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT

# _PRICE: (+849)
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Yup, cyberpower is the best as far as prebuilts go, but for the OP have you thought about building your own? Can get much more bang for the buck.
 
haha thank you.

well from what i know about computers and thats not much, is that quad cores are better.. i need lots of ram, a good video card

but then i here some games arent fully optimized for quads and then its all amd vs intel and nvidia vs ati then it gets confusing


mehhhh


haha i was looking at cyberpower, and i was wondering if it was legit so thank you
 
evilmoyer said:
haha thank you.

well from what i know about computers and thats not much, is that quad cores are better.. i need lots of ram, a good video card

but then i here some games arent fully optimized for quads and then its all amd vs intel and nvidia vs ati then it gets confusing


mehhhh


haha i was looking at cyberpower, and i was wondering if it was legit so thank you
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Right now, this is pretty much how it goes:

4850~9800gtx+
4870~GTX260 Core 216
4890~GTX275

For intel vs amd, go amd unless your spending enough to go core i7, as socket am3 provides great bang for the buck and ease of upgradeability.
 
sweet, so i just went on cyberpower and and built one


tell me if this is better same price btw as the alienware one




CAS: New! CoolerMaster Elite 310 Mid-Tower Case with See-Thur Side Panel
CASUPGRADE: NONE
CS_FAN: Default case fans
CPU: AMD Phenom™II X3 710 Triple-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
CD: (Special Price) LG 22X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Dual Layer Drive (BLACK COLOR)
CD2: NONE
FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)
FAN: CoolerMaster Hyper TX3 Gaming CPU Cooling Fan [+19]
HDD: Single Hard Drive (320GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
HDD2: NONE
IEEE_CARD: NONE
KEYBOARD: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
MOUSE: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse
MODEM: NONE
MULTIVIEW: Non-SLI/Non-CrossFireX Mode Supports Multiple Monitors
MONITOR: NONE
MONITOR2: NONE
MOTHERBOARD: GigaByte MA790FXT-UD5P AM3 DDR3 790FX CrossFire Chipset with Quad PCIE slot SATA RAID MB w/GbLAN,USB2.0,IEEE1394,&7.1Audio [+91]
MEMORY: 4GB (2GBx2) PC1333 DDR3 PC3 10666 Dual Channel Memory [+33] (Corsair or Major Brand)
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
OS: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium w/ Service Pack 1 [+104] (64-bit Edition)
OS_UPGRADE: (Free Upgrade Coupon) Microsoft® Windows® 7 Home Premium ($29-$29 Mail-In-Rebate = Free) [+29] (64-bit Edition)
PRINTER: None
PRINTER_CABLE: None
POWERSUPPLY: 650 Watts Power Supplies [+41] (Logisys ATX12V/EPS12V Silent 12CM Power Supply PS650U12)
RUSH: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
SPEAKERS: Logitech X-240 2.1 Configuration Subwoofer Speakers System [+23]
TEMP: NONE
TVRC: None
UPS: (Recommended) GigaByte Lightning Guardian Angel LAN Surge Protector [+29]
USB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
USBHD: NONE
VIDEO2: None
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX260 CORE 216 896MB 16X PCI Express [+105] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
VIDEOCAMERA: NONE
WNC: NONE
_PRICE: (+953)
 
For starters, go with the 650W corsair power supply, its the weakest link of that system. For the gpu, how much extra is it for a 4870 or 4890? That motherboard supports crossfire, not sli so an ati card would be to your advantage.
 
evilmoyer said:
like i think they are around 40-80$ more

but ive heard bad things about ati


that sounded cryptic :cool:
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Nothing wrong with ati, ati right now has the best cards as far as bang for the buck. For the power supply, change it to the corsair 650TX, i wouldnt trust that off brand one in that list there. You should be able to get the 4870 for the same price as the gtx260.
 
hmm, and the 4870 is better or equal to the 260?


because basiclly i want a good computer that will be able to play the next crysis sequal, mass effect 2, assassins creed 2, prototype and the next s.t.a.l.k.e.r. games
and possibly hold and play music
 
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