hey!, which cpu should i get?

Man, you really need to read up on how power supplies work. And whats a piece of junk and whats not. I cant even believe I'm arguing about a Deer power supply of all brands. This is about a joke.

You need to read up on ATX standards and how you apply wattage and amps on rails. You (dont) add the rails togather on that unit for the amps. Its not a true dual rail. It only has 342 watts total on the 12V which gives it a total MAX of 28.5 amps on the 12V. The rating on that one is just what any (ONE) rail can pull.

Lets look at it even your way. It holds the entire 15 amps on rail one for the 24/CPU. That only leaves 13.5 amps on the second rail for the rest of the entire system. Dont care if the second has a 16 amps limit or not. There is only 13.5 left anyway.

This is a piece of junk with its MAX rating on the label, which would last about 4 seconds before it cut out or blows. So even strip some watts and amps of the above away on top of it. ITS JUNK!
 
Interesting, you just keep saying that I don't know how power supplies work, are you a broken record? Hello? I'm doing it YOUR way here, only taking the second rail alone into consideration. I've explained this like 5 times now, I'm NOT adding the rails together anymore. Did that sink in yet?

OK so now it's 28.5. Where's the other 2.5 amps going from that sticker that says 16? I assume you are just taking away a couple amps because it's a cheap PSU. Fine, once again I'll do it your way and show there's still plenty of wattage left-

13.5 amps is still WAY plenty here for a 9600gso. 13.5 amps is 162 watts, the video card only uses ~half that at the very most, which leaves WAY plenty for a hard drive and cd rom.
 
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87dtna said:
I'm NOT adding the rails together anymore. Did that sink in yet?

OK so now it's 28.5. Where's the other 2.5 amps going from that sticker that says 16? I assume you are just taking away a couple amps because it's a cheap PSU. Fine, once again I'll do it your way and show there's still plenty of wattage left-
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It must not have sunk in yet if your still wondering where the 2.5 amps went. And even the ratings on that unit are the MAX. Would not advice anybody to use it or buy it.
 
StrangleHold said:
It must not have sunk in yet if your still wondering where the 2.5 amps went. And even the ratings on that unit are the MAX. Would not advice anybody to use it or buy it.
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OMFG

IT'S NOT EVEN USING HALF

Well first it was 28 amps, now it's 28.5. Why the change?
 
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Yes it is, you telling people that a piece of junk power supply is ok to use.

342 watts technically comes up to 28.5 amps. used 28 as a even number
 
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It's not powering a 4870 or a gtx260 here, it's a freakin 9600GSO.

This power supply is almost twice as good as most crappy/no name brand ones I've seen. I had a cheap crap no name brand 400w PSU with only 18A on a single 12v rail, I ran a Phenom II 550 at 3.8ghz with a gts250 for about 20 minutes while gaming until the PSU blew up finally. His power supply is WAY better than that one, and it's only a 9600gso.
 
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Did you ever see me say it didnt have enough to power his system, YES or NO.


I said it was a piece of junk and would not use it. Its not only cheap made, its over rated.
 
StrangleHold said:
Did you ever see me say it didnt have enough to power his system, YES or NO.


I said it was a piece of junk and would not use it. Its not only cheap made, its over rated.
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WHY wouldn't you use it? And I mean a real reason, not just ''it's a piece of junk''

Once again, there's no way it could be overrated to the point of double. He's only going to use 50% of it's rated MAX, if that.
 
BTW, it's the first rail thats actually underrated, not the second. 16a is 192w, but the first rail is 15a/150w when it should be 180w. BUT the card is going to be running off the second rail, with the higher wattage to it.

Now what I'm really finding funny is you keep saying how you can't add the rails, when you yourself keep adding them to get 28.5a, and then you subtracted a full 15a 180w from that ''total'' number. Apparently you think I'm an idiot or something, but nice try on that fast one. The second rail is a full 16a 192w. Maybe it's overrated, so what....he's not even using half of it.
 
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WHY wouldn't you use it? And I mean a real reason, not just ''it's a piece of junk''.
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I'm just totally confused by that. You want to know why I would not use a piece of junk? Is this a trick question, if not each to his own.

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Once again, there's no way it could be overrated to the point of double. He's only going to use 50% of it's rated MAX, if that.
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Not even the point!
 
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BTW, it's the first rail thats actually underrated, not the second. 16a is 192w, but the first rail is 15a/150w when it should be 180w. BUT the card is going to be running off the second rail, with the higher wattage to it.

Now what I'm really finding funny is you keep saying how you can't add the rails, when you yourself keep adding them to get 28.5a, and then you subtracted a full 15a 180w from that ''total'' number. Apparently you think I'm an idiot or something, but nice try on that fast one. The second rail is a full 16a 192w. Maybe it's overrated, so what....he's not even using half of it.
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My god I give up!
 
So whats your point? Longevity? what? What do you think is going to happen if he uses this PSU?


What makes this power supply a piece of junk?

Maybe when I phrase the questions this way you will finally understand.
 
wow geeze whats with all these argue. well i bought the Geforce 9600 GSO, though on the side it said "350W or greater power supply with a mininum of 18 amps on the 12v+ rail" is that good?
 
Yeah typically the card recommendations are bloated, if you have a GOOD power supply you wouldn't even need 350w. They just say that in case you have a crappy PSU, but you have a 500w so no issue at all.

Stranglehold keeps saying your PSU is a piece of crap, although he never states why.
 
thanks for the advice, i got a problem


i took out my cpu and like some of the outside pins are bent, i bent then back and fitted in my socket, it was tight but i had to apply pressure to put it in. think it still works?
 
Not a good thing if you had a apply pressure. I would take it back out just to make sure the pins stayed straight
 
Newegg has a canadadian site too, and it's actually cheaper + free shipping!

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139008&Tpk=corsair 400w


StrangleHold said:
If you dont want to spend alot.

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4465483&CatId=1079
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Seriously? Thats pretty damn hypocritical. You complain this whole time about his PSU being crap, and now you want him to spend fifty bucks on a power supply thats almost as crappy? The corsair 400w has the same amperage on the 12v rail as that overrated 500w cooler master, and the corsair has a single rail so it can distribute the power to where it needs it more.
 
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