Hi I'm new and REALLY need advice plz

Well from what Jet said it seems it doesn't matter about the parts being proprietary because I could just buy a new case, motherboard and processor and my computer would be good to go??
 
Ok so can someone take a peep at the specs, http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...082&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=431078&lang=en and take into account that I've:

Given it a new power supply (can't remember how much)
Gave it 2gigs RAM
Gave it Radeon X1900XTX

Now the thing I need to upgrade is the CPU but I was told I can't because its proprietary hardware and in order to upgrade the CPU I would need a new motherboard but I can't get a new motherboard because it won't fit or something. Now what if I got a new case, motherboard and CPU? Think that would do it instead of buyin a whole new computer?
 
Ok how about this?

CASE: NZXT Nemesis Metal Mid-Tower Case 400W W/ side-panel Window (BLACK COLOR)

CPU: (Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo X6800 Extreme Edition @ 2.93GHz 1066FSB 2x2MB L2 Cache EM64T

MOTHERBOARD: (Quad-Core Supports) MSI 975X Platinum I975X CrossFire Chipset LGA775 Supports Core 2 Duo CPU FSB1066 DDR2/800 Mainboard w/GbLAN, USB2.0, IEEE1394, &7.1Audio

MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Value Select or Major Brand)

VIDEO CARD: ATI Radeon X1950XTX PCI-E x16 512MB VIDEO CARD

VIDEO CARD 2: ATI Radeon X1950 CrossFire Edition PCI-E x16 512MB VIDEO CARD
HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (250GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)

Optical Drive: NEC 7170A 18X DVD+-RW Drive Dual Format Dual Layer (BLACK COLOR)

SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
 
^ way overkill. that CPU is such a waste

case: centurion 5
CPU: E6600
Motherboard: evga 680i
memory: corsair ddr2 800
video card: yours and the identical one

this will save you 600

and if you cant CF on a nvidia board for SLI, which i think you can CF, then get that board but if you can CF on the evga then get this setup
 
4gb is overkill. its like useful if you run every app on your computer and your taskbar has like a million icons.
 
Renaissance0321 said:
Ok... what makes that processor overkill? Is it the Ghz? I don't understand how to tell, is it the Ghz?
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The price tag. The X6800 features an unlocked multiplier that makes for improved overclocking, but really isn't worth the extra money.

I seriously hope you're not planning on running crossfired X1950s off the 400W PSU in that NZXT case, or some $50 PSU. Check what PSU you have.
 
Ok I believe this is an awesome computer, am I right? With something like this how long do you think it would last before I had to upgrade? Probably awhile?

CASE: NZXT Nemesis Elite Aluminium Mid-Tower Case 420W W/Window, Temp.Display & Fan Control (BLACK COLOR)

NZXT PF-500 500Watt Power Supply upgrade

CPU: (Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6700 CPU @ 2.66GHz 1066FSB 2x2MB L2 Cache EM64T

MOTHERBOARD: (Quad-Core Supports) EVGA nForce 680i SLI Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2 Mainboard

MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Value Select or Major Brand)

VIDEO CARD: NEW!!! NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB 16X PCI Express (EVGA Powered by NVIDIA)

VIDEO CARD 2: NEW!!! NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB 16X PCI Express (EVGA Powered by NVIDIA)

HARD DRIVE: Extreme Performance (RAID-0) with 2 Identical Hard Drives (160GB (80GBx2) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)

Data Hard Drive: NONE

Optical Drive: (Special Price) 18X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)

Optical Drive 2: NONE

SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
 
I'm sure other people'll agree, 500W is not enough to run 2 8800's, I'm guessing 800W and up and you'd be comfortable as they need a fair amount each, ask ceewee1 for details on a good PSU. Good system though
 
Just to add, you'll bottleneck with those drives; 7200RPM drives with that system would mean everything would be waiting on the HDD's to get their job done, if you format XP you know what it's like - it's limited by the speed of the drive so a lot of power is going to waste, for example, my Desktop will not out-format an Athlon64 3500+, no matter how much CPU power I put down.

EDIT: Save some cash, remove one of the 8800's and get a couple of WD Raptor drives; those'll hopefully partly relieve the bottleneck, and you'll still out-do many other systems with just the one GFX card.
 
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Jet said:
While it is a great system, I don't think it is worth that much.
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I agree, i dont think you need 2 8800's at this point, they might be better, later on the future when DX10 games and more models of 8000 series come out, but for now, as GCR said, i too would replace de GPU for something else...
Hope that helped
 
My overall goal is really to buy something and not have to worry about upgrading in the future because I don't plan on upgrading anymore. I'm tired of it. I guess it would be an investment? I really don't want to spend that much but I want that much performance. I'm scared to build my own because I'm new to that and I wouldn't feel comfortable doing it myself (I know I would mess up, or buy the wrong part). Now as far as the harddrive bottlenecking the computer, my main concern is gameplay... I don't mind how long a game takes to load as long as when it is finally loaded its butter smooth.

Would the harddrive effect actual gameplay or just loading and formatting drives and such?

Honestly I don't mind payin $2700ish for this computer because it comes with Lifetime tech support and a 3 year warranty :) and peace of mind when it comes to game performance.

I know it seems a bit extreme but I've always said, its better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it. I have dreams of playing Crysis on MAX settings without a hitch... :)

Anyway I was originally looking at an Alienware now THOSE are expensive and I believe this will perform just as well for a fraction of the cost? The Aliens I've seen were $6000-$8000. Anyway I was looking at cyberpowerpc.com for the purchase next week, any suggestions?
 
Joe lol nooooooooooooo! Don't give up on me lol, I'm stubborn! I do NOT want to piss away my cash, I just don't know what the heck I'm doin so I always just go the easy + more expensive way. Same reason why I spent 25,000 on a brand new car in 2002 and a year later it was going for 14,000 lol. Whoops. I don't wanna do that again.
 
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