I need your input on the ultimate computer cooler

Ok I dropped the ambient temp to 48degF I ran MW2 full graphics a couple rounds, is the dress getting a bit higher? :eek:
in order to drop the temp further I will need to change out the cap tube to the evap, so as to keep up.
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Its summer here in South Africa

25 degrees celsius is the ambient temperature.

im geting 32 degrees idle, and 48 degrees load on the CPU using Prime 95 (CPU is a C2D E6400 OCed to 2.8GHz from 2.13GHz). Not bad considering its air cooled by a CM Hyper 212 Plus

My GFX card is a problem though. the side has a vent that vents hot air into my case. so that raises the ambient temps slightly...

but i have set a RivaTuner profile, and my GPU maxes out at 67 degrees while playing crysis (again 25 degrees ambient, its summer here)

I really dont mind the noise while gaming. When idle though, my computer is quiet...

so i also cant justify that price...
 
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I could never get those numbers no matter what I did, If I kept the graphics setting low on crysis I was ok but as soon as I went to mid point or above I would get problems with stopping mid game and then crashing. Right now I'm running in the case 10C and ran the prime95 option#2 inplace large FFT, and getting core temps at 43C cpu 47C, I dont understand how I'm not getting a much lower temp and I am running an ultra cooler, any Ideas?
 
I cant think of anything that could be doing it...

Theoretically, since the ambient temp is cooler, its should run cooler...

I just played crysis again.

today was exceptionally hot. Ambient is 28 degrees indoors (i left thermometer in the case, as well as using software)

I played, and i start peaking at 78 degrees (at 100% fan speed) and i also start getting quite a few artifacts (distant mountains become gray and red flashing pixels, AKA artifacting..)

I really dont see why your temps arent lower.
 
just a noob said:
dry ice with acetone is around -60*C, ln2 is around -120*C, and liquid helium is -190*C(costing upwards of $4 a liter, and the only cpu's that don't coldbug at that temp is the phenom 2's)
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ln2 can get a good bit colder with a good pot like the F1, ln2 itself is -196C iirc. And yes they are only temporary, but something like a singlestage or chilled loop setup is able to be run 24/7 at consistant subzero, a good SS can get somewhere around -40c, and a good chilled loop can get down to -20 or -30c if running 50/50 ethylene glycol or propylene glycol and water.

Stoic Sentinel said:
Aren't those dry ice setups only temporary and usually just used for benchmarking? They look pretty strange, with the tube and all.

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Pretty much, although if you have like a 5-stager you can do phase change that gets some really insane temps, but the amount of energy required and the condensation hinder the ability to run it 24/7 (theoretically though it is possible, but for good clocks the voltage would kill the chip much sooner than standard.
 
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Pretty much, although if you have like a 5-stager you can do phase change that gets some really insane temps, but the amount of energy required and the condensation hinder the ability to run it 24/7 (theoretically though it is possible, but for good clocks the voltage would kill the chip much sooner than standard.
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Lol, mah head's spinning! I haven't even gotten around to understanding watercooling yet :P I understood that upping the voltage too high would destroy the chip even with the crazy low temps?
 
I ran crysis wars a half round with these graphics settings, I tried running best visuals at the beginning under options which will stay at best, but while ingame as you can see for some reason alot of the settings go to custom and I cant figure out why.
Vsync off
anti aliasing off
texture best
objects custom
shadows custom
physics custom
water best
game effects best
volumetric best
shaders best
post process custom
particles best
sound best
motion blur best
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im Running Crysis at max settings

4 x AA, 16 x AF, all setting on Very High (I have done the tweak that allows you to unlock Very High (reserved for DX10) on XP, and it looks AMAZING)

I havent gotten to a part where it lags badly (yet, but right now its very playable) but my temps are hitting 76 - 78 degrees ceiling, and every 5 minutes, i artifact quite badly.

I have 100% fan speed. How come its still hitting these high temps???

I have enough air flow, I have spent hours switching fans etc to get the best combo. My one front intake fans only job is to bring cold air to the GFX card...

so is there anything i can do (except changing the HSF) to lower the temps?

i can re-apply thermal paste properly (using AS5), but that would void my warranty...
 
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The high temps were what I was having issues with, thats why I built the cabinet, right now I have the first prototype which is a bit larger than the one I will be building, and is made from press wood rather than aluminum, I have the new one on order from the sheet metal co. and should have it in a few weeks. after I get the components in the new cabinet, change the cap tube for lower temps there should be a huge temp reduction, I should be able to drop the ambient air to below zero range.
 
be carefull though

Any thing that cold can easily condense close to a source of heat. Its like breating in winter...

make sure the air is "Dry" before you use it...
 
Computer_Freak said:
be carefull though

Any thing that cold can easily condense close to a source of heat. Its like breating in winter...

make sure the air is "Dry" before you use it...
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Flintner said:
I've been running this system for at least 4 months, i've resolved the moisture issue, hav'nt had a single problem. And it's not really a refrigerator so to speak but uses the same components.
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I still want to know how you solved it.
 
Computer_Freak said:
be carefull though

Any thing that cold can easily condense close to a source of heat. Its like breating in winter...

make sure the air is "Dry" before you use it...
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Moisture wont be the issue, the only problem I think I may run into is CD/DVD drives seizing up, they may need to be an external device, I dont think there will be issues with the hard drives since they generate heat, besides its not like the cooling will be instantaneous, it doesn't start cooling until the computer is turned on.
 
just a noob said:
he said it eats 1 euros worth of electricity each hour even when not under load :eek:
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Wouldnt surprise me, look at how much energy a triple stage uses, and a 5 stage you need quite a bit more power:eek:

However, in the long term it would end up being cheaper than running ln2.
 
Complete and utter waste of money in terms of degree reduction vs cost. Especially when you consider the alternatives such as water cooling. Even then, i run my HD5770 on max with crysis, and it doesn't top 50oC. why bother?
 
bigfellla said:
Complete and utter waste of money in terms of degree reduction vs cost. Especially when you consider the alternatives such as water cooling. Even then, i run my HD5770 on max with crysis, and it doesn't top 50oC. why bother?
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wow, thats running very cool

but, the only thing i dont like with that GPU is that it expels the hot air back into the case

My GTX does the same (well half the air) but it goes straight out of a vent at teh back...

and my side fan exhasts the rest...
 
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bigfellla said:
Complete and utter waste of money in terms of degree reduction vs cost. Especially when you consider the alternatives such as water cooling. Even then, i run my HD5770 on max with crysis, and it doesn't top 50oC. why bother?
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Ok here's my temps for the graphics card, I'm running a GTX260 Overclocked, I didn't realize my gpu temps aren't showing up in speed fan so I used rivatuner to get temps.
Crysis Wars best visuals temps at the vertical bar during play,

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