I want to build a computer :)

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dark_legacy2006

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Ok i really aprreciate help, even one tip at a time would be appreciated.

well i finally got a good summer job and i want to finish building my computer
so far ive got a nice case, with led lights and a fan, i need power supply, ram(atleast i gig), harddrive(s), processor (at least 3ghz or overcloockable to 3ghz, and lga775 socket), i want a lightscribed dvd rom (just one disc rom for this computer), a video card a bit better than a nvidia 5500fx (but for a pci-e slot, or one thats compatible with my motherboard), a sound card for some real loud noise.
ok my motherboard ECS 945P-A (1.1) ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail at Newegg.com
id preffer to keep that motherboard unless you strongly believe i should change it)
oh ya my budget im not quite sure but dont go crazy.
thanks in advance
 
hmm, you should have gotten a conroe compatible board, seeing conroe blew most of its competition out of the water in early on tests. But seeing that your motherboard doesn't support conroe, you'll have to settle with some Pentium D, maybe 930 seeing you want 3ghz+. For the rest, we'll need a budget from you first, or atleast a general range.
 
well i dont mind getting a new moard if thats what everyone reccomends, i mean i payed 40US for it so i guess i could sell it. Ok how about this i have a computer already and want a new one. So i was thinking i could use my current videocard to save on money (NVidia FX 5500), i also already have 512mb of ram (umm its DDR Single Channel, is there a program to figure out how many pins it has? 180, 204......) For my budget how about around 1200US(nomore) or 1350 CAN.
im not sure if my current memory will work with the new mobo or anything but id preffer to make it all work.
Also is Conroe pentium or what?
thanks again
 
conroe is core 2 duo, it's brand new technology so it's not like pentium or anything like that, but it's gonna be sweet. If you can't get a new motherboard for conroe pentium D is pretty good. i got a 930 recently, it's worked pretty well, prices are dropping on pentium d's too so you could get a pretty good one
 
Either way, to get a conroe, you'll need new ram, and new video (DDr2 and PCI-E). If you go for a Pentium D, (not reccomened), you'll need to upgrade both, or find a rare board which supports AGP and DDR1 (which may hold back performance). IMO, you should really just upgrade it all.
 
Upgrade to a Conroe compatible motherboard, along with DDRII ram, a new pci-express graphics card, and a core2 duo processor if you really want the best.
 
ok i have decided to not get conroe an buy an AMD when the orice cut comes in..... ok i need it all, this comp will be for gaming, surfing, and basixc tasks. I want a nice video card, and 2 ahrddrives 1 10000rpm and one bigger 7200 (160g or so), i ahve a case and would like suggestions on a nice system that will somewhat not cause me greif.
thanks
 
also im not sure igf agp (type of video card i want) has a pc tuner, and im not quite sure how they work but id like to know if you basically hook the comp to tv and can record off the tv to comp if os i want one
 
Well, here's a suggestion, wait, and see what happens with the price cuts. Then look for benchmarks, and see if Conroe is a better bang for the buck, or AMD, always look for what's a better proc for your dollar.
 
AMD ATHLON 64 X2 4400+ Toledo 939 Dual Core CPU
that sounds like a great processor, but just a few questions
1. does dual core mean 2 processors in one?
2. how fast will this run? ghz
3. fsb, what exactly does it do......
thanks
 
dark_legacy2006 said:
1. does dual core mean 2 processors in one?
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Dual core means 2 processing cores/dies on one chip. This is just like two processors because the die is really where data is processed.

2. how fast will this run? ghz
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It runs at 2.2 GHz, from the research I've done. Don't let this fool you, GHz aren't everything. This is about the equivalent of a dual core 3.4 GHz Pentium 4. It performs a lot more operations per clock cycle.

3. fsb, what exactly does it do......
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FSB stands for Front Side Bus, and is a measurement of how fast the processor communicates with the chipset and ram. The more, the better. AMD does this well, Intel's FSB sometimes bottlenecks RAM performance, I like AMD's integrated memory controller, kind of, except the architecture really needs to be redesigned for every new memory type.

Hope this helps, any more questions, please feel free to ask, I'll help as much as I can.
 
dark_legacy2006 said:
ok thanks alot, your a lot of help..... but how can i 2.2 matcgha 3.4 dual core?
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Well, there are a lot of other factors. For one, it has that faster FSB we talked about, second, it has a lot more level one cache, third, it performs more operations per clock cycle, and has a better pipeline system. It's not better at everything, it beats that 3.4 in more than the 3.4 beats it, but there are areas where the worse of the two will pull out a victory. Remember, clock speed is not so important, that's why the new conroes are going lower clocks, they're focusing more on Operations per clock cycle, better pipelines, and the like. MHz was just a marketing tactic Intel used because they're specifically designed Netburst architecture could reach high speeds with low efficiency (heat, and OPC), just so they'd have good looking numbers, I'm glad Otelini and crew moved away from that philosohy.
 
ok, i think i kinda understand...... this might be kind of a hard questikon but how is ghz determined then, also will that 2.2 be able to do it all? mulit task, game, and load quickly?
 
SC7 said:
Well, there are a lot of other factors. For one, it has that faster FSB we talked about, second, it has a lot more level one cache, third, it performs more operations per clock cycle, and has a better pipeline system. It's not better at everything, it beats that 3.4 in more than the 3.4 beats it, but there are areas where the worse of the two will pull out a victory. Remember, clock speed is not so important, that's why the new conroes are going lower clocks, they're focusing more on Operations per clock cycle, better pipelines, and the like. MHz was just a marketing tactic Intel used because they're specifically designed Netburst architecture could reach high speeds with low efficiency (heat, and OPC), just so they'd have good looking numbers, I'm glad Otelini and crew moved away from that philosohy.
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You can't truly compare a 2.2Ghz X2 to a 3.4Ghz P4, since they each perform better in certain tasks then others.

Also, the X2 doesn't have an FSB, they use HTT.

You're right about the clock speeds not meaning everything, since it's very easy to see in Intels Core architecture.

dark_legacy2006 said:
ok, i think i kinda understand...... this might be kind of a hard questikon but how is ghz determined then, also will that 2.2 be able to do it all? mulit task, game, and load quickly?
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I can't say for sure how Ghz is determinded, but the rated speed they give you is just the frequency at which it transmits data (I believe). There are many other factors to consider now, and clock speed has become virtually unusuable for comparing different types of processors.
 
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You can't truly compare a 2.2Ghz X2 to a 3.4Ghz P4, since they each perform better in certain tasks then others.
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SC7 said:
It's not better at everything, it beats that 3.4 in more than the 3.4 beats it, but there are areas where the worse of the two will pull out a victory.
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Not real sure on HTT exactly, time for me to do some research.
 
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