Bodaggit23
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There's nothing midrange about a Core i7 system.
Core i7 is enthusiast/workstation.
i9-What are Your Thoughts?
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There's nothing midrange about a Core i7 system.
Core i7 is enthusiast/workstation.
bomberboysk
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Midrange tops out at the ~$1000 and bracket, the i7 squeezes in at that mark with lower end motherboards and memory and therefore is a midrange/higher end setup. Workstation setups would be considered a dual xeon setup, not a single i7.
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Bodaggit23
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Socket 1366 is top end dude. The best you can get right now.
The only thing higher is dual socket 1366.
Not all workstations have dual sockets.
The only thing higher is dual socket 1366.
Not all workstations have dual sockets.
Jet
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Yes--it is the best you can get right now, but price wise it still can be spec'd into midrange computers--especially if you get good deals!
Drenlin
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When they first implemented it on the Pentium 4 HT, the performance gains were something like 30/40%...I assume this still applies?
bomberboysk
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Doesnt matter if its the best you can get, that isnt what makes it high end, pricing is what determines if its a high end or low end system. And actually, the best you can get right now is a 6core opteron or xeon.
Bodaggit23
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As much as I hate to argue with you, because you're never wrong, this logic is ridiculous.
Cost has nothing to do with performance. Prices change...
bomberboysk
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When building a new system,generally speaking the cost of the overall system is what dictates whether it is low end, midrange, or a high end or workstation. The i7 can easily be used within a midrange system, and it is not the be all end all of cpu's, something such as the i9 however will be reserved for high end and workstation style systems. We are not talking prices of a system 6 months old, i am referring to the new cost to build a system. I know plenty of people who need CPU power but not GPU power and are running an i7 with a lower end gpu such as a 4650, that is definately not a high end style setup. It depends totally on the application of the processor, which is why the i7 is both a midrange and higher end cpu.
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Bodaggit23
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By your logic, I could do a Single Core build with 2Gigs of RAM, and pile on the most expensive PSU, GPU, SSD's, Case, Watercooling, etc...
As long as the build costs more than $1000, it's "High End/Workstation".?
Excuse me while I pee myself.
Jet
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By your logic, I could do a Single Core build with 2Gigs of RAM, and pile on the most expensive PSU, GPU, SSD's, Case, Watercooling, etc...
As long as the build costs more than $1000, it's "High End/Workstation".?
Excuse me while I pee myself.
Take the converse of this situation.
Even though the i7 is "high end", it can be run in mid range computers. Take, for instance, my desktop in the sig. It's a decent computer, but just because it has an i7 in it doesn't mean it's a high end computer. I just have an X800XT in the computer, and I paid $600 for it all. I don't believe that you'd say a $600 computer is high end, would you?
Bodaggit23
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What I'm saying is the cost of the overall build has nothing to do with the range of the platform.
What you have is an enthusiast build with a crap GPU.
What you have is an enthusiast build with a crap GPU.
Jet
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What I'm saying is the cost of the overall build has nothing to do with the range of the platform.
What you have is an enthusiast build with a crap GPU.
Then would you consider my build with a 5870 to be a high end build? (Cost around $1000--like Bomber said).
This is pretty silly by this point.
Bodaggit23
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Then would you consider my build with a 5870 to be a high end build? (Cost around $1000--like Bomber said).
This is pretty silly by this point.
Like I said, you already have a high end build, because of the platform, not because of how much you paid for the sum of the components.
I guess I'm missing something obvious, since it's become "silly".
Bodaggit23
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Let's just agree to disagree. I'm obviously missing something.
bomberboysk
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I said cost is also a factor, not the sole determining factor whether or not its a high end setup.By your logic, I could do a Single Core build with 2Gigs of RAM, and pile on the most expensive PSU, GPU, SSD's, Case, Watercooling, etc...
As long as the build costs more than $1000, it's "High End/Workstation".?
Excuse me while I pee myself.
Works for me
funkysnair
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im sorry but the price is a big factor if its high end etc!!!
the higher performing the componant the bigger the price?
the higher performing the componant the bigger the price?
Bodaggit23
Active Member
You said exactly this:
bomberboysk said:
http://www.computerforum.com/166073-i9-what-your-thoughts-3.html#post1381813
bomberboysk
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Dont nitpick what i just said, you as well as everyone else who read that post knows exactly what i mean by that statement.
Bodaggit23
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It's not my fault you are contradicting what you are saying.