IDE primary w/ OS, trying to get SATA w/ OS as secondary storage device

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Hi,

The primary HDD on here is an IDE, which comes with the computer, and is not removable as the computer is configured to boot only that HDD (for some reason).

I'm trying to get this computer to read a SATA HDD (160GB). I want it to be a secondary storage device. It's from another computer I have whose motherboard fried, and there is data on it that I need to access for my business. It has Windows XP installed as the OS.

So I hooked it up to the secondary HDD cable, which is of course attached to the main IDE HDD (no other option I think). I booted Windows XP as usual from the main HDD, but the SATA drive isn't showing up in "My Computer," nor is it registering in the Device Manager. The "Secondary Storage Device" slot in the BIOS doesn't show the SATA either.

I went to the BIOS to disable SCSI as recommended by another user on another forum, but there isn't an option for that in my BIOS.

All I need is to get the data off of that SATA HDD and onto the HDD already in the computer.

All help is appreciated.

Thanks,
James



OS: Windows XP
Manufacturer/Model: HP pavilion / a370n
 
<<< System Summary >>>

> Mainboard : Asus Grouper

> Chipset : Intel i915GL

> Processor : Intel Pentium 4 530 @ 3000 MHz

> Physical Memory : 512 MB (2 x 256 DDR-SDRAM )

> Video Card : Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/GL, 82910GL Integrated Graphics Device

> Hard Disk : ST3200822AS (200 GB)

> DVD-Rom Drive : PHILIPS DVD8421

> CD-Rom Drive : SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-148A

> Monitor Type : Mitsubishi Electronics NXM76LCD - 17 inchs

> Monitor Type : Mitsubishi Electronics NXM76LCD - 17 inchs

> Network Card : Realtek Semiconductor RT8139 (A/B/C/810x/813x/C+) Fast Ethernet Adapter

> Operating System : Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition 5.01.2600 Service Pack 2

> DirectX : Version 9.0c (November 2006)

<<< Mainboard >>>

> Manufacturer : HP Pavilion 061

>> General Information
Product : PJ510AA-ABA a730n
Version : 0nB1211RE101GROUP00
Serial Number : MXF4400FBZ NA440
Unique ID : Unspecified
Start mode : Unspecified

>> OEM Information
Manufacturer : Hewlett-Packard
Model : Pavilion
OEM #1 : Unspecified
OEM #2 : Unspecified
OEM #3 : Unspecified
OEM #4 : Unspecified
OEM #5 : Unspecified
OEM #6 : Unspecified
OEM #7 : Unspecified
OEM #8 : Unspecified
OEM #9 : Unspecified
OEM #10 : Unspecified
OEM #11 : Unspecified
OEM #12 : Unspecified
OEM #13 : Unspecified
OEM #14 : Unspecified
OEM #15 : Unspecified
OEM #16 : Unspecified

> Mainboard : Asus Grouper

>> General Information
Manufacturer : ASUSTeK Computer INC. (Asus)
Product : Grouper
Version : 1.xx
Serial Number : X312345678
Support MP : Yes, 1 CPU(s)
Version MPS : 1.4

>> Chassis Information
Manufacturer : Chassis Manufacture
Type : Desktop
Version : Chassis Version
Serial Number : Chassis Serial Number
Asset : Asset-1234567890

>> Sensor Information
Monitoring Chip : SMSC DME1737

>> On-Board Device Information
Device : (Ethernet)
Device : (Sound)
Device : (Video)

>> Slots Information
Slot PCI-Express : Available (32-bit) 3.3v, Shared Slot Opening
Slot PCI : Available (32-bit) 3.3v, Shared Slot Opening
Slot PCI : In Use (32-bit) 3.3v, Shared Slot Opening
Slot PCI : Available (32-bit) 3.3v, Shared Slot Opening

>> External Connectors
Mouse : PS/2
Keyboard : PS/2
USB : Access Bus (USB)
USB : Access Bus (USB)
USB : Access Bus (USB)
USB : Access Bus (USB)
USB : Access Bus (USB)
USB : Access Bus (USB)

>> Internal Connectors
AUX : On Board Sound Input from CD-ROM
CD : On Board Sound Input from CD-ROM
IDE : On Board IDE
FLOPPY : On Board Floppy
CPU_FAN
SYS_FAN
ATXPWR
FP_AUDIO

> Bios : American Megatrends Inc.

>> General Information
Manufacturer : American Megatrends Inc.
Version : 3.06
Date : 27 August 2004
Address : 0xF000 on 512 KB
Copyright : (C)2003 American Megatrends, Inc
Motherboard ID : 63-0306-000000-00101111-082704-I915-A0005046
DMI Version : 2.3

>> Characteristics
Flashable : Yes
Socketed : Yes

>> Functionnality
APM : Yes
ACPI : Yes
ESCD : Yes
PnP : Yes
PCI : Yes
ISA : Yes
AGP : Yes
USB : Yes
PCMCIA : No
Smart Battery : No

>> Boot Information
Selectable Boot : Yes
CD-ROM Boot : Yes
PC Card (PCMCIA) Boot : No
I20 Boot : No
LS-120 Boot : Yes
1394 Boot : No
ATAPI ZIP Boot : Yes
Network Boot : Yes

> Chipset : Intel i915GL

>> General Information
NorthBridge : Intel i915GL
SouthBridge : 82801FB/FR (ICH6/ICH6R) LPC Interface Bridge

>> NorthBridge Information
Architecture : Direct Media Interface (DMI)
Manufacturer : Intel (Hewlett-Packard Company)
Codename : Grantsdale
Revision : B1
Bus Speed : 200.1 MHz
FSB Frequency : 800.2 MHz (QDR)
FSB max. Support : 533 MHz
RAM max. Support : DDR2 (400 MHz)

>> Memory Information
Frequency : 200 MHz
DRAM/FSB Ratio : 1/1
Supported Channels : Dual (128-bit)
Activated Channels : Single
ECC Diagnostic : No
RAS Precharge (tRP) : 5 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) : 0 clocks
Shared Memory (video) : Yes

>> Video Information
Integrated Controller : Yes
Enabled : Yes

>> Device Capabilities (PCI)
I/O Access : No
Memory Access : Yes
Bus Master Capable : Yes
Special Cycle Recognition : No
Memory Write & Invalidate : No
VGA Palette Snoop : No
Parity Error Response : No
Cycle Wait : No
System Error Line : No
Fast Back-to-Back : No
Detects Parity Errors : No
User Defined Format : No
PCI 66Mhz Bus Support : No
New Capability List : Yes
PCI Support : Vendor-Dependant
 
First of all a sata drive doesn't connect to an ide drive. The board itself has to have sata controllers or you add in a separate sata controller card. The sata cable is usually shorter and far thinner then the standard ide ribbon cable. The a370n shown in your sig isn't found at the HP support site. http://h20180.www2.hp.com/apps/Look...ang=en&h_cc=us&h_query=pavilion+a370n&x=6&y=4

The image shown here is what the typical sata cable and end connector look like while some are now seen in neon and multicolors.

 
What I thought was an IDE HDD is 200GB so it is probably a SATA, plus that is what the connectors look like---the reason I thought it was IDE is because I saw that Device Manager has "IDE" as part of a continous string for the HDD description:

"IDE\DISKST3200822AS" etc for the Device Instance ID in the Details tab of the Disk Drive properties in the Device Manager...
 
The a30n supports four sata drives in two arrays or as individual masters like sata master #1, sata master #2, etc. as seen at http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...31&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=3339287&lang=en

Even with some type of adapter to plug it in on the middle connector on the primary ide cable it still won't work. A sata is a different type of drive using a totally different bus on the board with it's own controller. You would still go by the board diagram seen at the other link to see where the drive should plug into. That's a one way fit for those cables as well. The power connector will be a wider flat type coming from the supplu itself.

Once you have the drive plugged in correctly by looking to see which plug is #1 on the sata primary you will still to download the drivers for Windows from the HP support site. When those are installed and active you should be able to go right into the Disk Management tool found at "Control Panel>Agministrative Tools>Computer Management>Storage" and double click there to open that up. To give give you a quick example look over the screen capture here. Look in the right windows to see how the drives are shown.

 
It has native SATA support in the ICH6, drivers are not needed.

From the way you described the way you hooked up the drive, it sounds like you don't have an SATA cable for the second drive, only the power is connected.
 
The description of "So I hooked it up to the secondary HDD cable, which is of course attached to the main IDE HDD" can make anyone wonder if that was a jerry rigging to the ide cable or the second 12v plug on the main rail. Either or you won't get far without a sata type data cable.

If you have the latest updates for the board itself those would include the drivers for the onboard controllers. Those are also installed from the board's software disk when first going to install Windows. When you get the correct the cable look at the bottom right side of the diagram seen at http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=3339287&lang=en#N858

Right directly under the lithium battery holder you will see the four sockets for the sata drives with the two ide sockets to the right. The bottom left of the four sockets is for the sata master #1. If the partition itself has inaccessible once this is done you can copy files from the drive with a live for cd Linux distro like Knoppix or ubuntu. But that would be a last option.
 
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