Intel vs AMD

ABenz99

ABenz99

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I am building a compter (for music production, gaming, video editing, programing, virtual machines, and web design) and am having trouble deciding on a processer and motherboard. There are two processers I am looking at on newegg:

-Intel I7 LGA2011 6-core, 3.2ghz (3.8ghz turbo) for $569
-AMD FX8350 Vishera Socket AM3+125W 8-core 4.0ghz (4.2turbo) for $199

It seems obvious that I should choose the AMD processer, but I've heard they're lower quality, and the motherboards dont have PCI express 3.0 (which I need for a graphics card). I want a high quality computer, and don't want to cheap-out on the processer, but the AMD one has a lot more power for a lot less money. As for the motherboard; will AMD make a model with pci 3.0 in the next few months? Or should I just buy a pci 2.0 graphics card, instad of a 3.0?
 
The amd mobos have pcie 3.0 AFAIK and you dont need it anyways, it's the same slot as 2.0 but a higher bandwidth. The only thing that would be held back by 2.0 would be a 680 or 7970 and above, and really in gaming they still arent other than maybe maxing bf3 on a tri 1440p setup.

The 8350 is fine but a 3930k is better. In actuallity the 8350 is 4 cores + 4*3/4 cores, they share some resources and they dont process as much information per cycle (ghz is a measure of cycles per second). A 3930k is 6 full cores that do more per cycle, and each is threaded as 2 cores so they can get more done at once. Price to performance, a 3770k is a lot better, but if you can afford it a 3930k is a lot stronger, but price doesnt scale to performance so the faster it is the higher the price.

Check out anandtech.com's benchmarks section, you can compare them.

And there is a microcenter near you, st. Louis park, and you can get processors there for a good bit less, plus motherboards are normally good too, and with lga1155 and am3+ several processors have combo discounts.

But if you do look at the 3770k, then wait till next month cuz the 4770k will be out, but the 4000 series six core processors wont be out for a little while longer AFAIK, they normally come out a while later
 
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I would not even look at a Core i7 3930K processor. The Intel Core i7 3820 and the AMD FX-8350 Vishera processors are very powerful and will leave you with more money in your pocket.
 
What about the Intel i7 3820 and AMD FX 8350? Again, AMD is cheaper, and more powerful, but is it better or worse than Intel for what I intend to do?
 
Did you read my post, AMD is nowhere near more powerful. Look on anandtech to see the difference and judge for yourself if the price is worth the performance.
 
Sorry, but I was a little confused. What exactly measures the amount of information per cycle (if GHz is cycles per second). None of the specifications on newegg showed any problems with the AMD. However, there were probably some specs I overlooked.
 
For a given clock speed Intel has a higher IPC. Plus your comparing a 570 buck processor to a 199 buck one. Why where you going with a socket 2011 instead of a socket 1155 with like a i7 3770K for 330 bucks. For the price the FX8320/8350 will do good if the programs your running are highly threaded.
 
Honestly, depending on how much you want to spend, I'd grab an AMD FX-8320 or an i7 3770K. The 8320 is cheaper but slower than the i7, but the 3770K is about as powerful as you'll need and can easily be overclocked.

The 3770K should be fine for what you want to do. I do most of the stuff you're doing on an i5 2500K overclocked to 4.3GHz and don't have a problem.
 
To clarify. The 8320 and the 8350 are the same chip but the the 8350 is clocked higher out of the box. If you're comfortable with doing some slight overclocking save the money and get the 8320.

Personally I'd get an 8320 and a good water cooling set up and overclock it to high heaven. :D
 
If you can afford a 3770K I'd get one of those over the 8320 though. The 3770K also overclocks well.

It's faster than an 8320 out of the box and once overclocked it will leave the 8320 behind.

But if you want to save money, the 8320 is a good option.
 
spirit said:
If you can afford a 3770K I'd get one of those over the 8320 though. The 3770K also overclocks well.

It's faster than an 8320 out of the box and once overclocked it will leave the 8320 behind.

But if you want to save money, the 8320 is a good option.
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The i7 also costs 2 times (or more) as much as an FX8320.
 
Encoding would be the only thing that an AMD 8350 would even come close to the I7 3770k's performance.

You guys all seem to think you can overclock an 8320 as much as an 8350 can overclock, which is not true at all. 8320's are basically the rejects that didn't make it to 8350 specs, and they cannot overclock as well at all. The average 8350 daily overclock is 200-400mhz higher on the same voltage.

With that said, the 3770k is in a completely different league than anything AMD has. It's absolutely worth every penny more than an FX-8350.

You look at stock comparisons of the 3770k and FX-8350, the 3770k destroys it in 98% of apps with usually a 30% or better margin. And it's clocked 500mhz slower.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=551
 
I have the i5 3570k for my rig and it is pretty much equivalent to the 3770k only cheaper same performance and everything. The only difference is the 3770k is more fir for editing programs etc...
 
Eric4753 said:
I have the i5 3570k for my rig and it is pretty much equivalent to the 3770k only cheaper same performance and everything. The only difference is the 3770k is more fir for editing programs etc...
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Which, if you even bothered to read the OP, he is doing.

ABenz99 said:
I am building a compter (for music production, gaming, video editing, programing, virtual machines, and web design)
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Though, I agree for the price the 4670k is a better bang for the buck than a 4770k, there will be better performance with the 4770k with what he's doing so if he can swing the extra bucks why not.
 
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jonnyp11 said:
plus, 4770k is out and it's a decent upgrade from the 3770k
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It turns out disappointing to me...
Only 1-3% improved CPU performance in most cases, 5-7% in less benchmarks.
The 3770k sometimes even pass his successor.
Only graphics, power consumption and overclock facilities are really improved. But the temperature problem from ivy is still not fixed.

This gives AMD the time to catch up a bit.
 
From what I understand the biggest improvement that the 4770K has is the onboard graphics.

But I don't think it will give AMD 'a chance to catch up' to be perfectly honest.
 
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