Is Battlefield 2 a game that helps terrorists? Our government thinks so.

Arm_Pit2 said:
What i peronsally dont like is the "non supporters"(not saying this is you just there are ALOT)
That is the 'downside' with the democracy, everyone has the right to their own opinion. hahah :)

Arm_Pit2 said:
there are ALOT that don't have the slightest clue on how the government is run, and how they blame some things on him that are compltly unrelated to the president.
Naturally, but theres also ALOT of supporters that don't have the slightest clue about how the government is run, or what is going on, or whom to invade next.. :D
 
anil099 said:
This is quite possibly the most idiotic political discussion I've ever been a part of.
Well, you just can't expect a giant group of computer nerds to really make magnificant political conversation on what happens outside the realms of AMD and Intel...



But I will say this...



At least he isn't John Kerry :D
 
P11 said:
I second that, and the US Government especially the Bush Administration should recieve the credit they deserve.
Dude- im sorry... you dont live here... Bush is pretty much a retard (for a very large number of reasons) You shouldnt say that unless you live here for a year or so. ill have to say that you are very uninformed.
 
Burgerbob said:
Dude- im sorry... you dont live here... Bush is pretty much a retard (for a very large number of reasons) You shouldnt say that unless you live here for a year or so. ill have to say that you are very uninformed.
I have not lived in the US but I have many relatives and friends who tell me about the common problems a US citizen faces. You can suggest anything you want about Mr.Bush, however I would like to see the reasons to why he is a so called, "retard."

P.S, whoever wants my essay about Saddams WMD add me to msn or give me an email: [email protected]
 
Well, you just can't expect a giant group of computer nerds to really make magnificant political conversation on what happens outside the realms of AMD and Intel...

Good Point. I was going to point that out, but I thought it would be rude to call everyone here a nerd and accuse them of being unable to debate politics because they are nerds...but I agree with you though.
 
anil099 said:
Good Point. I was going to point that out, but I thought it would be rude to call everyone here a nerd and accuse them of being unable to debate politics because they are nerds...but I agree with you though.
I ain't no nerd.... It's just my hobbies are US Politics, Computers, & Electronics :)
Not to mention Basketball, and weight training... which pretty much take up 70% of my day.
 
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Ill just post my essay up here: *kind of off-topic but it will save members the trouble of having to add me on msn*

P.S- I am not sure if it has any grammatical errors..but let me know if it does.

Operation Iraqi Freedom


The war in Iraq is currently a very controversial issue viewed by both political and social audiences all over the world. Although the public find the subject intolerable it has many aspects to it that have not been exposed to the general population that justify America’s reasoning for entering the Middle East. Through joint Co-Operations with anti-terrorist nations, it has enabled the US to create the world most prevalent operation to counter ubiquitous terrorism. Operation Iraqi Freedom is justified through preemptive action towards terrorist organizations, skillful military training & tactics, and the annihilation of Weapons of Mass Destruction.

The United States led preemptive military action in Iraq with intelligence that Saddam and his regime were on the verge of an all out war on Israel. This was consequently the major spark to the US’ rapid response to send troops over to Iraq. The States recognized that if Israel were to be overthrown their access to the Middle East would no longer be accessible on Israeli soil. At this point in time a war involving the whole Middle East was no longer inevitable, both American allied forces and Saddam’s regime recognized this. The US government received various signals that touched upon Iraqi military intelligence and Al-Qaeda in close cooperation with the use of WMD. On January 14, 2003 British forces raided a terrorist safe house in Manchester; one detective was killed in this investigation but furthermore led to the capture of a significant amount of ricin – an extremely potent poison. The US now had proof and justification for entering Iraq through many investigations of this sort linking Iraq to chemical and biological weapons involving terrorist organizations.

Saddam at this point was declaring war indirectly on all American troops that are to step foot on Iraqi soil -in a speech brainwashing the public, “ The United States wants to destroy the centers of the power in the entire Arab homeland, once in control they will rob the Arab people of our oil.” In the same speech Saddam also told Iraqi and military informants that, “ Once the United States has power over Baghdad it will take on Saudi Arabia by splitting it into small entities to be ruled by sentries and guards working for the United States,” also led by a closing statement assuring the audience that the US was in favor of creating a Zionist kingdom, “ Washington’s objective is for Israel, under this strategy, to become a great empire in the region, what is taking place and planned against us now will also take place and be planned against the others tomorrow.” This speech not only told the US of their intentions but it also told all other Arab nations that the US was planning on taking over their land and creating a Israeli – US controlled region. President Bush now organizing a military strike seeked help from Israel, Britain, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Egypt, all granting the US some form of aid on the War on Terrorism, often a common mistake by the general public who refer to the war as America vs. Iraq.



The United States now in Iraq is largely influenced by the government to find evidence of foreign fighters, terrorist organizations, and WMD. Their plan for finding these objects is done through military and intelligence collectively. At the time of arrival for American Troops most targets were being disengaged through air strikes and U.S Special Forces ground troops. These operations were all done on a high priority, high risk checklist, mainly due to the fact that they were targeting possible locations of Saddam, Uday & Qusay Hussein, and ultimately terrorists. These operations both proved successful after destroying weapon storages, terrorist safe houses, disengaging terrorists, and killing both Uday and Qusay. Although these operations proved successful many attempts for finding, WMD, and Osama Bin Laden were not. The existence of WMD has been documented, found in small quantities, and confirmed by captured terrorists and high ranking terrorist leaders. Intelligence failure is often a problem of war, as countries scramble to find evidence to justify their actions information often is taken too seriously or is received from the wrong sources. Although intelligence failure does affect the war effort, troops stay strong, maintain a constant state of suspicious alertness, and continue performing military operations at targeted sites. Ultimately the bravery and commitment of American Troops leads to the capture of Saddam Hussein regardless of intelligence failure, proving the integrity and adept training of troops in Iraq.

The presence of WMD in Iraq has been the single most frequently questioned topic regarding America’s entrance ino Iraq.

“The fall of 2002, Saddam crossed an unacceptable threshold, supplying operational weapons of mass destruction (WMD) to bin Laden’s terrorists. These developments were confirmed to the Western intelligence services after several terrorist – graduates of WMD training programs – were captured in Iraq, Chechnya, Turkey, and France, along with documents related to their activities.”

This being one of the most assuring pieces of evidence for entrance intro Iraq the US was not able to strike immediately due to political confrontations regarding their involvement. Another quantity of assuring evidence was when Israeli Special Forces retrieved documents that showed Iraqi vice president, Taha Yassin Ramadan was responsible for supporting Palestinian terrorists with thousands of dollars. This evidence was undeniable regarding Iraqi and Palestinian involvement with terrorist organizations providing and aiding their actions. In Palestine Arafat ordered, “Hectic preparations for an escalation of the intifiada, including the use of missiles, and terrorists carrying WMD.” This was assured by Lieutenant Colonel al-Dabbagh when his unit received RPG (rocket propelled grenades) filled with WMD. Al-Dabbagh reported, “They were either chemical or biological weapons; I don’t know which, because only the fedayeen and the Special Republican Guard were allowed to use them. All I know is that we were told that when we used these weapons we had to wear gas masks.” These weapons were used by officers dressed in civilian clothes in case Iraq’s defeat was forthcoming.

Previous to America’s recent entrance in Iraq Arab security officials who visited Baghdad in July reported, Saddam has already, “put the final touches to a plan for a counterattack that involves the use of biological and chemical weapons. The plan calls for launching attacks in the whole of the Middle East.” Iraq’s WMD were now being confirmed by many sources, including captured terrorists who were planning on using them. On the night of September 13, 2002, “Israeli Special Forces intercepted a three-man squad attempting to cross the Jordan River and enter Palestinian territories on their way to Arafat’s compound in Ramallah. The interrogation revealed that they were highly trained members of Baghdad-based Arab Liberation Front (ALF), sent to conduct spectacular strikes under the banner of Arafat’s Fatah. The three terrorists were trained for several missions, including an operation that involved using shoulder-fired missiles to shoot down civilian airlines as they approached Ben-Gurion Airport and using anti-tank rockets and missiles to ambush convoys.” These terrorists were also training other terrorists with heavy weapons, and missiles. The three ALF terrorists also mentioned that they had received elaborate training with chemical weapons and poisons, specifically ricin. They were also taken to a derelict complex near Halabja, in Kurdistan, here they participated in experiments with chemical weapons. This place was also known to be Osama Bin Laden’s Kurdish offshoot. The trio also revealed that they were given instructions to strike American bases with specific coordinates; this ultimately being one of the most solid pieces of information confirming the attempted use of WMD.

The ongoing war in Iraq although now after the fall of Saddam is somewhat progressing towards a brighter future. Terrorist are still obstructing US Marines and troops from conducting anti-terror covert operations, along with the resistance of foreign fighters that recognize US troops as being trespassers on their land. The next chapter of the War on Terror is Iran, currently rejecting US attempts at diplomatic resolutions regarding their nuclear program, it is foreseen that the US may continue their campaign in Iran. Current president of Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said that their nuclear program is non-violent and has no involvment with a nuclear bomb program. However, in a speech to the public he said that, “the Zionist must be wipped off the map.” This statement could be viewed from many standpoints as a non-voilent threat but Middle Eastern regions are not nessisarily the type to solve problems without the use of force. It is inevitable that Iran is willing to use nuclear weapons to destroy Israel and this could be the start to premptive plans involving war to neutrailize the threat of Iran and the use of WMD. This furthermore justifies America’s involvment in Iraq and their premptive action in order to prevent terrroism. This was accomplished through, intercepting terrrorist constingency plans, proficient and appropriate military action, and the eradication of WMD.
 
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I can't belive I read that long post P11. I would have said like TL;DR, but it was great, well written, and brings out a good point. Great job P11! :D
 
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Dialamo said:
I can't belive I read that long post P11. I would have said like TL;DR, but it was great, well written, and has brings out a good point. Great job P11! :D
Thank You! :)
 
tweaker said:
That is the 'downside' with the democracy, everyone has the right to their own opinion. hahah :)


Naturally, but theres also ALOT of supporters that don't have the slightest clue about how the government is run, or what is going on, or whom to invade next.. :D
True, on both points.

Burgerbob said:
Dude- im sorry... you dont live here... Bush is pretty much a retard (for a very large number of reasons) You shouldnt say that unless you live here for a year or so. ill have to say that you are very uninformed.
To bad living here has just about nothing to do with being informed, saying it only prooves your uninformed yourself.
 
p11, canada is not in iraq... canada shouldn't even been in afgansitan.. butwhatever.. US has support... funny ..
this is not apolitical forum though so please stop!
 
trouzourt said:
p11, canada is not in iraq... canada shouldn't even been in afgansitan.. butwhatever.. US has support... funny ..
this is not apolitical forum though so please stop!
Canada is in Iraq, not officially but they are, and Canada should be in Afganistan and I believe they should only be deployed in small amounts in Iraq. The US is our big brother, we should do whatever possible to keep a strong relationship between us. BTW, this is the off-topic section...we are free to speak of whatever we wish....I do not think you are in the position to tell people what to or not to talk about.

Proof of the presence of Canadian Troops in Iraq: (A small amount...but none the less that is presence enough for terrorists to target us)

"OTTAWA - Ottawa now admits that some Canadian soldiers are in Iraq, even though Canada refused to join the U.S.-led war against Saddam Hussein

Thirty-one Canadians are with U.S. and British troops in the Gulf as part of a military exchange, and a British army officer told CBC News that some of the Canadians are in combat.

But the prime minister continues to deny any Canadians are directly involved in the fighting."

Source: CBC News - 2003
 
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