is going tor T1 timing memory worth it?

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Well... im thinking of going for 2x 1Gb RAM, and ive seen RAM modules like the Corsair 2-2-2-5 Modules, and they advertised that it can run in T1.
now my question is.. is T1 timed RAM much better then T2 timed RAM?
since i'm buying new RAM anyway ( i have really cheap RAM atm, so it quite limit's overclocking too :) ) i was wondering if its worth the extra expense

Corsair TWINX Pro/Platinum and Kingston HyperX CL2.0. this kind of RAM im talking about.
 
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I think most RAM runs 1T even if it's not advertised, as long as your not running all the DIMM slots occupied.

Are you asking if you should upgrade to that RAM? I wouldn't do it, even if you are running four sticks currently (are you?). You shouldn't be able to notice the difference between the two command rates, but the difference is there. Or Are you already looking for 2 Gb of RAM?
 
well... im planning on overclocking my Pc.. now.. my motherboard doesnt seem to support dual cores over 2.4GHz,.. so im getting a new motherboard.
However... im running cheap RAM (4stciks, 2x 512 and 2x 256.. well, i had 4x 512, but my dad needed more memory badly,.. so i switched it a bit)
and i heard that if the timings are too high.. you can only overclock the memory very little,.. then you have to loosen the timings.
with 2-2-2-5 memory for example,.. i could overclock it further.

well.. that was the idea behind this post. but you're saying the difference would be very small, and therefore not worth the money?
 
The more you overclock, the more you have to loosen the timings. You can really only tighten them when you are running at stock speeds. The other problem is that not all motherboards have the capability to support 1T timings. You might want to look into that before you buy.
 
I think the Asus A8N32 SLI does support it.. but does T1 and T2 make much of a difference performance wise?
 
Buy a good quality ram. Get an 800Mhz chip with low voltage, preferrably 1.8-1.95 volts, and a CAS of 4 or 5. If you have a memory stick that runs 1.8V at CAS 4 and 800Mhz, you have a KICKASS stick of memory. Most sticks have to bump timings to get to 800Mhz at CAS 4, or they have to bump voltage to get to 800Mhz and CAS 4, and so on and so forth. So, generally speaking if you buy Corsair XMS2 800Mhz DDR2 with a CAS4 rating and 1.9V, you can apply more voltes (.2-.3) to keep it stable at higher speeds at the same rating, or once you get it as fast as you can at say...2.1V, you can then loosen yoru timings up to closer to CAS5 and continue to bring the ram speed up. Do you follow? Cheaper/lower quality memory has to have more volts and/or looser timings to hit higher speeds. Quality memory like Gskill GBHZ, Corsair XMS, and Team memory all run relatively low voltages (2.0V or less) with respectable timings at their stock rated speed, giving them more overhead.

A stick of memory running DDR2 800Mhz at CAS5 and running 2.0 volts is really being run at its own upper limits and is NOT a good choice for reliability/overclocking for you.
 
SirKenin said:
In benchmarks it does, but in real life performance? We're talking millionth's of a second.
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I agree with this statement.

Many times in the past I have had the debate about high speed ram, and it is honestly a waste of money IMHO. I once took a gaming rig, and had few sets of ram. I had the high dollar corsair ram in there at first and played CS Source, Farcry, Doom 3, and BF2 on it. I then swapped the Corsair ram out for some off brand named ram: Patriot, Centon, and a few others.

I gave this pepsi challenge to a lot of the sales reps and other service people (I was working IT at the time supporting retail and corporate sales of computer equipment) and no one could really guess which ram was in the system.

Now sure under some bench marks (like 3D mark) there was some difference, but none of the applications pushed the machine hard enough to actually make a difference. On top of that we as humans a lot of times don't have the ability to even comprehend the difference because it is happening faster than our brains can process it.

I am going to say save your money and invest it in a better video card, more HD space, or build a cheap second computer for back up file server instead of tossing it away on high speed ram.

Personally, I have had lots of issues in the past with corsair memory, it creates and causes bottlenecks and some memory controllers don't like that ram either.
 
Ya the only real place you will notice it is benchmarks, in fact for me it shaved off nearly a second is super pi 1m, but even my comp is much faster then most applications need so day to day you really won't see much gain.
 
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