Is it illeagal to use someone elses wireless?

Im sure i could..they dont have WEP or WPA..but i really dont know. Ive never had the want to since my Dlink router (WPA)with the SSID of "QACJARED ROUTERS OWNS YOU" has great singal in my house and back yard. So my computer conects to it first.
 
I believe that if they don't have WPA OR WEP enabled then it shouldn't really matter cause obviously they don't know so they don't care, but if encryption is enabled and you crack it then you should mos definetly go to jail.
 
Jiffyman said:
I believe that if they don't have WPA OR WEP enabled then it shouldn't really matter cause obviously they don't know so they don't care, but if encryption is enabled and you crack it then you should mos definetly go to jail.
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Ditto: This falls under some kind of FCC FTA act! FTA = Free to air, basically if it is transmitted through airwave you have the right to recieve it like local television stations, police broadcast, local radio stations and if you have a scanner you can listen to cellphone and cordless telephone calls!

How ever once it is encrypted and you have to break that encryption in order to use, listen or view you are breaking the law!

Wardriving is not illegal but when you "break into a network" that is!
 
look its not stealing and it is legal,
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nope i still disagree,

its like saying yea the car was open but i just took it to see how it drives without permission.

the guy whos car it is will report you without questions asked
 
Christian Darrall said:
nope i still disagree,

its like saying yea the car was open but i just took it to see how it drives without permission.

the guy whos car it is will report you without questions asked
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Maybe its not right, but its not against the law.(unless encrypted)
 
so you dont think theres an almost identical charter covering the misuse of computers within the U.S.

nah maybe they didnt think it was worth it :S
 
You can typically connect to any wireless network your PC recognizes, brand of router shouldn't matter.

If I find people on my network I do something about it. It's my service, my money, and my internet, there's no questions about it.

You can dance around definitions of words and technicalities, but the truth of the matter is you can get in trouble for it if the person you are STEALING from cares enough to do something about it. It's very similiar to stealing someone's cable line, or leeching off there electricity or water. It's a service they pay for, whether they are using it at the time or not.
 
if anythink does happen use the excuse, "yea cop, i aint good with computers i just turned my pc on and all i new i had the internet" dads excuse
 
Heh, i wouldnt see why its illegal. Its not stealing really, they arent losing anything, except bandwidth. If they cared so much, why not encrypted it?

I dont have my wifi encrypted and i dont mind people using mine, just not sucking up all my bandwidth.
 
I just look at internet sites and game with my internet.... And its not like they are paying extra for you using there internet...
 
but it is stealing, its a provided service that is paid for and often contractually so. It may not be encrypted but thats not the issue. By using it your are knowlingly taking something that is not yours.

The firmware within the router in question becomes the property of the person who is paying for said internet. Using that firmware is thus illegal to anyone else who does not have permission. Data protection and computer use is very broad in its definitions. The firmware and router would be considered as a computer component in its own right. In the eyes of the law it would be as criminal as using the internet to log onto someone elses computer and browse their system
 
jimmymac said:
but it is stealing, its a provided service that is paid for and often contractually so. It may not be encrypted but thats not the issue. By using it your are knowlingly taking something that is not yours.

The firmware within the router in question becomes the property of the person who is paying for said internet. Using that firmware is thus illegal to anyone else who does not have permission. Data protection and computer use is very broad in its definitions. The firmware and router would be considered as a computer component in its own right. In the eyes of the law it would be as criminal as using the internet to log onto someone elses computer and browse their system
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We are talking about using someones internet, not browsing there files....
 
If you don't care, then there's no problem. It's like if a store owner would let someone steal the merchandise inside (he'd be stupid) but it wouldn't be illegal if the store owner said it was OK.

Encryption is an option, it still doesn't mean you can use it. Just liek the car example. Locking your doors is an OPTION, just because they are unlocked it doesn't mean you can legally open the door and take the car. The owner is stupid for not locking the doors, but that doesn't change anything.
 
4W4K3 said:
If you don't care, then there's no problem. It's like if a store owner would let someone steal the merchandise inside (he'd be stupid) but it wouldn't be illegal if the store owner said it was OK.
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But the thing i am talking about is, you arent taking anything away from the person...
 
Motoxrdude said:
We are talking about using someones internet, not browsing there files....
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your missing the point. By using their internet what route are you taking to get onto said internet.

ITs going to go from your wireless adaptor to......THE ROUTER...this is where the issue lies. The router and its firmware belong to the person who is paying for the internet.

Simply browsing the internet is not the issue..its using that router and its firmware to do it
 
Motoxrdude said:
But the thing i am talking about is, you arent taking anything away from the person...
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you are taking away though. What happens if two people in your house are using the internet and both are downloading.....the connection gets shared between the two, thus slowing down the download speed of them both. By using their internet you are taking away part of their speed which they have paid for.
 
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