Is it worth building desktops anymore?

[joh06937]

Oh I see. I never even heard about using more than one graphic card at once before today but sure, I can cope with that. What is good in using sli/crossfire?

Intel uses Intel motherboards and AMD uses AMD motherboards?

People use ATI for AMD because crossfire is so much better than sli for AMD motherboards?

If then, people use sli for Intel because sli is much better than crossfire for Intel motherboards?

And you're using crossfire since your motherboard is 8xx -> 890FXA-UD5

a good solution a lot of people seem to use is getting a single HD 5850 and then getting another down the road for crossfire. but, you can go higher and get a 5870 or go lower and get something like a 5770. just depends on your budget. it is always best to get the best single card you can and then crossfire down the road.

yep.

crossfire isn't necessarily better it is just that the chipsets that support crossfire are much better than those that support sli.

sli is almost always better than crossfire since it scales much better (you get closer to a 100% gain with sli than with crossfire).

i actually have a single 5970 card that uses 2 gpus on a single board with crossfire.

I thought that 790/890 were the best supported chipsets for crossfire. For 8x8 and 16x16. Seems odd that those would not be the ones to make compatible for SLI.

pretty sure amd just wants people to stick with ati cards (since amd and ati are the same ).

 

[StrangleHold]

Seems odd that those would not be the ones to make compatible for SLI.

Since AMD owns ATI, hell will freeze over before they would let SLI run on AMD chipsets.

Intel just lets it happen because they have no stand alone cards. SLI future is only with Intel or Lucid chips.

Plus Nvidia is being sqeezed out of the chipset market anyway. Intel done killed them and as far as I know, there will be no Nvidia chipset for Bulldozer.

Unless Lucid makes it big on AMD boards, SLI is at a dead end with AMD.

 

[salvage-this]

That does make sense on the business side of things. Still a bummer if you want to switch up your cards.

 

[Skitsofrenic]

Hey joh, you mentioned that AMD is less expensive compared to Intel.

At the moment, Microcenter is selling Intel core i7 930 for 199.99 and AMD Phenom II X6 1055T for 195.99.

If we were to compare those 2 processors, which one would come out on top?

 

[salvage-this]

Hey joh, you mentioned that AMD is less expensive compared to Intel.

At the moment, Microcenter is selling Intel core i7 930 for 199.99 and AMD Phenom II X6 1055T for 195.99.

If we were to compare those 2 processors, which one would come out on top?

That really depends on what program you are using. I would lean towards the 1055t just for having more cores but both of them are amazing processors.

 

[StrangleHold]

If Lucid gets it together and Nvidia/AMD doesnt take them to court sooner or later. You will be able to run SLI or C/F and even mix match them on any chipset.

Here is one of the first AMD board that can run SLI/Crossfire or even mix Nvidia and ATI cards with the lucid chip.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130297

 

[Skitsofrenic]

That really depends on what program you are using. I would lean towards the 1055t just for having more cores but both of them are amazing processors.

What if I was using them for gaming?

 

[joh06937]

What if I was using them for gaming?

also depends on the game

 

[Skitsofrenic]

also depends on the game

I wish I knew more about computers xD

 

[Skitsofrenic]

Is AMD good for single thread applications while Intel is good for multi-thread applications?

 

[joh06937]

I wish I knew more about computers xD

eh, we all start out without knowing much

i personally would probably go with the intel cpu. you might have a hard time staying under budget with the setup though, unless you get an ancient card. i'll try posting some links to parts i'd suggest.

is $700 a pretty firm number or can you go higher at all?

 

[Skitsofrenic]

$700 is what I have atm but I didn't start building just yet. I'm still planning on researching and studying a bit more before I start, so that should give me some time to gather up a few extra bucks.

 

[joh06937]

$700 is what I have atm but I didn't start building just yet. I'm still planning on researching and studying a bit more before I start, so that should give me some time to gather up a few extra bucks.

going with either the 930 or the 1055t would really be pushing the budget even with a low end card i'd say. if you can maybe get it up to $900 or $1000 you'd be in great shape.

 

[Skitsofrenic]

Can you make me a build with i7 930? I would like to see how it would turn out with a $700 budget.. lol

 

[Bfg8142]

Yeah theres absolutely no way you could build a i7 930 computer for 700 unfortunately, I can check a few more combo deals but your looking at 914.00 without an operating system with a gtx 260, however you could go around 820ish if you wanted a gts 250. But I mean if your going to spend that kind of money you might aswell get a gtx260 or better :].

 

[Skitsofrenic]

I guess this isn't going to work-out afterall..

How much do people usually spend on other parts with the i7 930 processor?

 

[Bfg8142]

Well it depends on the combo deals, but usually anywhere from 700-1000+. Another good processor to look in to would be the i5-760 its a cheaper processor, 2.66ghz, still is a quadcore with the same cache. Later on if you want/learn how you can overclock the processor. I think if your looking in your budget range that would be your best bet.

 

[lunadog]

Sorry for butting into this post but im looking into an i5-760 and i don't know much or at all about overclocking can somone tell me if its nessecary and if it is how i can do it