Is this Comp any good?

FWIW, I would do some serious research on someone selling systems like that on ebay. It's really hit or miss with them. I noticed though that neither promoted a "6.0 Ghz!" label (3.0 clock speed * 2) like the really shady places do. There were a few clues in each one though to make me a tad skeptical that maybe they're being marketed to folks with little (not none, but little) computer experience. Also, the second one had a stupid little video that played automatically, which kind of turned me off to it from the start.

Also, the system is not worth the BIN price, IMO. My advice, shop around, look at places other than ebay, and you can probably find better deals.
 
Well the first one "sounds" good, but it doesn't say what brand the memory is.

The second one has a FOXCONN video card, and I don't think it's a great company. The memory is by some company I've never heard of, and the PSU is from Logisys, which I know first hand is a horrible company.

your better off buying your own parts and building your own.
 
^ Each one will have barebones systems, which are basically a case, MoBo, CPU, PUS, and maybe RAM/HDD/misc. combined and sold for cheaper than getting all the parts separate. It's hit-or-miss with them depending on time of year and what they have available, but sometimes you can make out like a bandit by going that route:)

Do you have some technical know-how and troubleshooting skills to attempt a self-built? A bit tricky at first, but once you do it, you really won't want/need to ever buy a pre-built again:)
 
imsati said:
^ Each one will have barebones systems, which are basically a case, MoBo, CPU, PUS, and maybe RAM/HDD/misc. combined and sold for cheaper than getting all the parts separate. It's hit-or-miss with them depending on time of year and what they have available, but sometimes you can make out like a bandit by going that route:)

Do you have some technical know-how and troubleshooting skills to attempt a self-built? A bit tricky at first, but once you do it, you really won't want/need to ever buy a pre-built again:)
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yes and no. ive been able to fix my computer and friends computers. ive never taken computer classes or anything like that, so as far as building my own, im not totally sure.
 
The only hard part about assembling a computer is placing the jumpers and headers in the right spot. Once you do that it's easy as pie.

You would not be able to just plug in your old HDD and go. You'd need to format it (as the mobo is different and so the boot manager won't recognize it and will give you a BSOD). Back up all necessary info, and then place it in the new build and then format and install the OS.

Also, what will the main uses of the computer be? If it's simple web surfing and such, then those are decent builds.
 
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RandomHero34 said:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3901241&CatId=2405

or

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3901231&CatId=2405

anygood? could i just plug my old hard drive into one of these, and would 2GB RAM be ok? or would 4GB be noticeably different and worth it?
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I'd trust either of those systems more than I would either of the two from ebay you posted up earlier. With each of those TD systems, you'd still need to buy a few more parts to make them whole, but still cheaper than ebay when all is said and done. The MoBo in the first one is a bit out-dated as far as new technology goes, though.

Do you have an OEM or Retail copy of Windows (that *you* bought, not one that came with a Dell or other type of system)? When you switch MoBo's, you typically want to reinstall Windows. If you're using a 32-bit OS (as opposed to 64-bit), +/- 3 GB is the most it will be able to see, so 4 GB of RAM would be overkill.

Might we ask what kind of system you have now?
 
imsati said:
I'd trust either of those systems more than I would either of the two from ebay you posted up earlier. With each of those TD systems, you'd still need to buy a few more parts to make them whole, but still cheaper than ebay when all is said and done. The MoBo in the first one is a bit out-dated as far as new technology goes, though.

Do you have an OEM or Retail copy of Windows (that *you* bought, not one that came with a Dell or other type of system)? When you switch MoBo's, you typically want to reinstall Windows. If you're using a 32-bit OS (as opposed to 64-bit), +/- 3 GB is the most it will be able to see, so 4 GB of RAM would be overkill.

Might we ask what kind of system you have now?
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i do not have a new copy of windows, i only have the one that came with my dell. i have a dell dimension 4600, pentium 4 2.8GHz, intel MoBo i think, 1.5GB DDR RAM, im not sure if its 32 or 64 bit, if i had to guess id say 32, pretty sure its 32. 120GB HDD.
 
You'd need to buy a copy of Windows then - the one installed on the Hard Drive you have now will NOT work on anything other than a Dell. For XP, look to spend +/-$80 for Home, maybe $120-ish for Pro. You could still use your Hard Drive and not have to get a new one, but the actual Windows OS would need to be reinstalled.

It's 32-bit you have, so 2 GB would suffice, 3 at the most, anything over that = waste of money. If you want, I can browse a bit and piece together a barebones plus any extra parts you'll need, or look and build one up from scratch for you to compare with.
 
imsati said:
You'd need to buy a copy of Windows then - the one installed on the Hard Drive you have now will NOT work on anything other than a Dell. For XP, look to spend +/-$80 for Home, maybe $120-ish for Pro. You could still use your Hard Drive and not have to get a new one, but the actual Windows OS would need to be reinstalled.

It's 32-bit you have, so 2 GB would suffice, 3 at the most, anything over that = waste of money. If you want, I can browse a bit and piece together a barebones plus any extra parts you'll need, or look and build one up from scratch for you to compare with.
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WOW!!! that would be amazing if you could do that for me. i didnt think people were that nice now a days. i really dont wanna spend more than 600.
id like it fast as possible.
 
From Scratch: http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?Submit=view

The total for the above is $502 (minus $30 from MIR's). That's everything but a new Hard Drive (assuming you keep yours). You'd have to figure $34-ish for tax and whatever shipping would be to your location (mine was $27). If you want to save some money, you can keep take away the C2D from the list and keep your P4 (however, you would need to add on a HSF since the one from your Dell will not work).

I looked at TD and newegg for Barebones, but the units they have at the moment really aren't that great.
 
Heh...yeah, it would...hold on a sec...

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Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119149
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153052
MoBo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128334 (I have it - it's nice)
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115032
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178095
Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130313
Optical Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136117
OS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116056
Misc Case Fans: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103022 (I just order these - supposedly very quite and blue LED too!)

Also, just found this on TD: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...Main-_-WEM1641-_-Components&SRCCODE=WEM1641BY
Add an OS and you're golden. All things considering though, I'd personally do the build from Newegg.
 
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thanks alot, that seems pretty good. minus the optical drive, dont need any. will that video card play battlefield with good graphics?
 
RandomHero34 said:
thanks alot, that seems pretty good. minus the optical drive, dont need any. will that video card play battlefield with good graphics?
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You have an optical drive you'll swap over? As far as the game - with that C2D, RAM, and video card, I see no reason why it wouldn't. For comparison, once assembled, the parts listed from Newegg will smoke the system you have now; so if it plays on your Dell, it will be far-superior with the new parts.
 
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You have an optical drive you'll swap over? As far as the game - with that C2D, RAM, and video card, I see no reason why it wouldn't.
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yeah i have a CD-RW and a DVD-ROM. on my current pc, when i had 512MB RAM and a ATI Radeon 9550, it played battlefield fine. the graphics were garbage but i could play the game without lag or anything.
 
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