If you dont know about top joysticks or another forum thats for gamepads/joysticks dont waste ur time on this post
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I have been searching for a joystick on google for a long time or a forum so i can ask about them but i cant find anything that compares the top controllers.
Recantly i have had a logitech Extreem digital 3d. I had porblems with it and i wanted force feedback anyways so i later bought a Logitech Force 3d. Worked 'ok' for a cuple months but still kinda sucked and now rudder and x axis ****ing up and the middle is very loose ect... anyways im thinking on buying a new one..
Price doesnt mean much. ( as i dont expect the "best" could cost over $150 )
I want a single joystick, nothing like saiteks x52 or x45 where its got 2 diff controlers basically.. I just want(requirements):
-single controller ( not x45 or x52 type things)
-force feedback
-not wireless
-comfort isnt a porblem i just want the forcefeedback to be good but much more importantly, accurate control and not loose in the middle( is that possible with force feedback?)
-Im trying to fly simulator helicopters on FS2004 so it cant be extreemly stiff in the middle( any stick iv ever used hasnt had that porblem but i've heard about it )
I think i will get one of these joysticks but i dont know what is best( for the requirements i listed above). If you know a better one please tell me. If you can refer me to another forum please do. I have read many reviews but i need to compare these sticks against eachother. Thanks ALOT for any help!
saitek - Cyborg evo Force ( will probally get this one )
MS - Sidewinder Force Feedback 2
MS - Sidewinder Force Feedback pro
logitech - strike force 3d( im afraid to get this because of my experiences with cheeper logitech comtrollers)

I have been searching for a joystick on google for a long time or a forum so i can ask about them but i cant find anything that compares the top controllers.
Recantly i have had a logitech Extreem digital 3d. I had porblems with it and i wanted force feedback anyways so i later bought a Logitech Force 3d. Worked 'ok' for a cuple months but still kinda sucked and now rudder and x axis ****ing up and the middle is very loose ect... anyways im thinking on buying a new one..
Price doesnt mean much. ( as i dont expect the "best" could cost over $150 )
I want a single joystick, nothing like saiteks x52 or x45 where its got 2 diff controlers basically.. I just want(requirements):
-single controller ( not x45 or x52 type things)
-force feedback
-not wireless
-comfort isnt a porblem i just want the forcefeedback to be good but much more importantly, accurate control and not loose in the middle( is that possible with force feedback?)
-Im trying to fly simulator helicopters on FS2004 so it cant be extreemly stiff in the middle( any stick iv ever used hasnt had that porblem but i've heard about it )
I think i will get one of these joysticks but i dont know what is best( for the requirements i listed above). If you know a better one please tell me. If you can refer me to another forum please do. I have read many reviews but i need to compare these sticks against eachother. Thanks ALOT for any help!

saitek - Cyborg evo Force ( will probally get this one )
MS - Sidewinder Force Feedback 2
MS - Sidewinder Force Feedback pro
logitech - strike force 3d( im afraid to get this because of my experiences with cheeper logitech comtrollers)