Just put together new computer NEED HELP!!!

ya that should work
if you really want to though you could always get a new power supply but thats just my segestion see what other think
 
macnoob said:
i think your first step sould be calm down. then systematically check each part.
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He just indicated a 195w supply out of an old build. Since the Intel P4 and AMD Socket 754 boards came out all boards are seen with the manufacturer's recommendation for at least a 350w atx supply to be used.

StrangleHold said:
The little square white 4 pin above the 20 pin, 195watts, thats pretty weak. You would be lucky if it would fire it up anyway.
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A 195w or 250w and even some more recent 430w supplies wouldn't even have the 12v cpu feed to begin with. The supply for the old Socket A board here was an Antec 430w with the 20pin not 20+4pin main connector while still having the 12v cpu feed. Useless for the current Socket 939 board now used. The last time I saw a 250w model was in an AST 486 flat top model with only two 5 1/4" drive bays.

pies said:
ya that should work
if you really want to though you could always get a new power supply but thats just my segestion see what other think
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The supply is the wrong type to begin with. Depending on make and model board along with what the system will be used for and the total hardwares installed the minimum would start at 400w+ for the budget build. The old supply there should be in a pc museum not a new build.
 
XPSMan159 said:
HERE ARE THE PICS

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o311/MrClown_2007/P3070057.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o311/MrClown_2007/P3070058.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o311/MrClown_2007/P3070059.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o311/MrClown_2007/P3070060.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o311/MrClown_2007/P3070061.jpg
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I think I found your problem... would worth lots of money to me... lol!

Look at the last picture you posted...
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o311/MrClown_2007/P3070061.jpg
There is a connector, a header right beside the heatsink/fan on the cpu and right where you connected the PSU cables unto the mobo. There is a four header power connector which isn't pluged in. For Intel C2D/Dual Core/P4 CPU's it's required! Find on your PSU cables a small four pin header/connector and plug it in!

See if that works!?
:cool:
 
PC eye said:
He just indicated a 195w supply out of an old build. Since the Intel P4 and AMD Socket 754 boards came out all boards are seen with the manufacturer's recommendation for at least a 350w atx supply to be used.



A 195w or 250w and even some more recent 430w supplies wouldn't even have the 12v cpu feed to begin with. The supply for the old Socket A board here was an Antec 430w with the 20pin not 20+4pin main connector while still having the 12v cpu feed. Useless for the current Socket 939 board now used. The last time I saw a 250w model was in an AST 486 flat top model with only two 5 1/4" drive bays.



The supply is the wrong type to begin with. Depending on make and model board along with what the system will be used for and the total hardwares installed the minimum would start at 400w+ for the budget build. The old supply there should be in a pc museum not a new build.
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PC eye is right... (so am I basically) change the PSU to at least a 350W if not higher PSU and you will find all the connectors you need. Plus, if you have a S-ATA HDD the new PSU usually has this connector with it, so you wouldn't have to add the converter for it like you did.

Try it!

Good luck!
 
XPSMan159 said:
I just put together a second computer for my room and im having some trouble getting it to start up. All the fans spin and the graphics card fan spins and there is no beeping but nothing shows up on screen. I put the ram in also.

Please help me. Ill post pics and will be on this and respond ASAP after you post.
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im not saying this is the problem but i had a similar problem. i took all my comp parts liying around the house attempting to build my dad a work computer and i the comp would run fine but i wouldn't get a signal on my monitor. so i called a computer specialist up and he come out to my house and told my that either my cpu or motherboard was broken/old/corrupt. if this is a brand new comp i have no idea whats wrong but if its old parts try to switch around some parts and check if all the cords are plunged in tight.
good luck
staplerz
 
Cheeeaaap crap is more the wprd on those! For $37 +S&H you could easily go with a Fortron 400w model with sata connectors all set to go. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104952

For a comparison of the "good" and the "bad"(foobar) lists :P look at these two seen here.

Good:
Antec(except Smart Power models) - Astec - AOpen - Channel Well - Coolermaster - Enermax(except Liberty models)
- Enlight - Fortron Source (Sparkle) - HEC - OCZ Technology - PC Power & Cooling - PowerMan
- Seasonic - SilverStone - Sunbeam - Tagan - TTGI/SuperFlower - Vantec - Zippy / Emacs - Verax - Zalman
- Corsair

Bad:
Allied - Antec Smart Power models seem to lack(recommend True Power or NeoHE) - Aspire - CoolMax - DEER - Enermax Liberty models - EYE-T
- KingStar - L&C - Linkworld - Logisys - PowerMagic - PowerUp - Powmax - Q-Tec - Raidmax - Skyhawk - Star
- Turbolink - Ultra - ThermalTake(complaints heard some good some ???) - Rosewill - SilenX ???
 
Ok i will go ahead and buy a new powersupply and just to tell you guys i think thats the problem becasue non of my hard drives or CD rom would turn on so its the PSU.

I wish the site would have said that the CPU needed the 4 pin power connecter.

SO all new CPU require a 4 pin because my dell xps doesn't have one. or is it just on MICRO ATX BOARDS.

and the powersupply you showed me have a 24 pin connecter the motherboard only has 20 pin
 
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It's probably a 20+4 pin connector.
A 4 pin section will snap off for mainboards that don't need it.
 
XPSMan159 said:
Ok i will go ahead and buy a new powersupply and just to tell you guys i think thats the problem becasue non of my hard drives or CD rom would turn on so its the PSU.

I wish the site would have said that the CPU needed the 4 pin power connecter.

SO all new CPU require a 4 pin because my dell xps doesn't have one. or is it just on MICRO ATX BOARDS.

and the powersupply you showed me have a 24 pin connecter the motherboard only has 20 pin
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Many higher-end boards, such as mine, have 8-pin sockets now with the option of 4-pin. This is because the Pentium D Extreme Editions use a helluva lot of power, although the Core 2 Duo may not need these as they use less power, but they still use a fair amount of current, 5.41 amps roughly based on a PSU providing a perfect 12v. The Dell motherboard will no doubt be different to standard ATX boards, I believe they still use the BTX standard which is completely different in design.
 
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The 20+4pin main connector seen on the newer supplies is used for both 20 and 24pin power connections so you can run a newer supply on an older board like the one you have. Just which XPS model us that? The board in your pics shows that both DDR400 and DDR2533 memory can be used. That would also use all pins on the 20+4pin main power connector and the four wire 12v cpu feed. http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o311/MrClown_2007/P3070061.jpg
 
Ok i went to compusa a bought a new psu which now the computer turns on and goes to the bios. I boot from my xp cd and sometimes it just shuts down. I reset the cmos jumper and then put it back to normal then it turns back on. I can't get though the setup please help me.

I also says the NTLDR is missing and to restart. NOW ITS SAYING IT ALL THE TIME CAN"T GET IT TO GP AWAY

I NEED HELP
 
ok i got it to work and i loaded World of warcraft and it works great and smooth with an 2000 ATI graphics card which i though would never run WOW.

But I tried to use the key from my dell but it says its invalid so I guess I have to buy a new WIndows XP. Is there anyway to use same key twice. Or does someone have a new key they could give me ill pay if its real.
 
If you buy an OEM disk for a good price seen at this time it comes with it's own product id number. That's the number you use with a new disk. If you lose a number you have to go to Microsoft to buy a new license from them. XP Pro or XP 64bit OEMs usually see lower prices then the Home version. To find the best price some shopping sites like Nextag will list different vendors where you simply see who has the best deal. http://www.nextag.com/oem-xp/search-html
 
Yeah an old PSU wouldn't have the extra 4 pin connector. It's to provide extra power to the CPU. You're out of luck there.
 
Initially there were some older supplies for P4 and AMD Socket 754 boards with the extra 12v cpu feed that still had the 20pin main power connector. For newer boards since the 20+4pin type is now the norm. Some server model supplies will see 24pin instead. For using a new supply on old boards you simply detach the 4pin section off of the main plugin. Was the XP cd scratched up, smudged from handling, or simply no good?
 
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