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"but 2x dual core 2.7ghz g5s pwn a 4800x2"

do people realize what their saying? say you balance it out? 2x4800+X2s?

tsk tsk tsk... and what if you push them both to 2.7GHz? then which would win?
 
i think 98% of us on the forum are pc sack riders, but reguardlessly, its the facts... two 4800X2's are just about untouchable.... unless you get quad opteron 246's
 
GamerGuy8899 said:
Sack Riders? What are those? :)

Similiar to a bandwagon. Accept you ride a "sack" and not a "wagon" :P

I must confess, I am saving for a Mac-mini if I can. Won't get another PC until I have the time for it.
 
Ok, I must confess to having said the quote. And 2x dual core 2.7GHz G5's do pwn a single 4800X2. Okay, I was unbalanced. But Macs pwn Windows PCs in terms of useability and ‘plug and play-ness’. You take a Mac home, open the boxes, plug it in to power, plug the kbd and mouse, and it works. A Windoze PC (or anything non-Mac) you have to do loads more stuff to make it work. Also, M$ has insanely stupid product activation sh!t. Apple doesn't.
 
it says 4800x2 he prabally ment a X2 4800, not two AMD X2 4800's
Chris Chan said:
Ok, I must confess to having said the quote. And 2x dual core 2.7GHz G5's do pwn a single 4800X2. Okay, I was unbalanced. But Macs pwn Windows PCs in terms of useability and ‘plug and play-ness’. You take a Mac home, open the boxes, plug it in to power, plug the kbd and mouse, and it works. A Windoze PC (or anything non-Mac) you have to do loads more stuff to make it work. Also, M$ has insanely stupid product activation sh!t. Apple doesn't.
What else do you have to do on windows? Maybe install ainti virus? Not like its needed anyways.

Plus the activation has to be there becuase WINDOWS IS JUST SO GOOD that to many people try and pirate it, and as long as your ont, you enter in the code press submit and your done, not like it takes mroe then a minite.
 
On all the prebuilt Windoze PCs I've set up, there has been adware pre-installed. You have to go download Spybot-S&D and Ad-aware, probably also AVG Free and Zonealarm if not preinstalled.
 
Chris Chan said:
On all the prebuilt Windoze PCs I've set up, there has been adware pre-installed. You have to go download Spybot-S&D and Ad-aware, probably also AVG Free and Zonealarm if not preinstalled.

You're comparing pre-built Windows machines to a Mac. Whil hat makes sense, VERY few people here have pre-built systems.

With a custom PC (after installing the Windows OS) there is no spyware or anything like that. However you do need the latest service packs and stuf like that.

The main reason I am considerin a Mac-mini, is exactly what you have posted. Convenience. I can buy it, turn it on, an use it. Hardly ever do you worry about new OS updates on a MAC, or updating definition files, or anything like that.
 
Xycron said:
it says 4800x2 he prabally ment a X2 4800, not two AMD X2 4800's

What else do you have to do on windows? Maybe install ainti virus? Not like its needed anyways.

Plus the activation has to be there becuase WINDOWS IS JUST SO GOOD that to many people try and pirate it, and as long as your ont, you enter in the code press submit and your done, not like it takes mroe then a minite.

Ok, the only reason why Windows is "just so good" is because Bill Gates had the smart idea to allow other companies to use his code in order to make computers, therefore taking up a larger market share. That is the only smart thing that was done by Mr. Gates, and is a huge reason why Windows systems are still around today. However, I'm glad that Apple did not b/c it keeps the quality of their product much higher, and I for one am willing to pay more for a higher product.

And now comes the list of things that makes Windows "just so bad":
1. Based on MS-DOS. enough said.
2. Uses a registry. Wow, how frustratingly stupid when installing programs or trying to move them.
3. Much more GOOD free software out there for Mac, and you don't have to worry about it containing spyware, adware or viruses.
4. Integrated "helpful" features in SP2 BLOW CHUNKS OUT BOTH ENDS!!!
5. More items, but list could go on forever...

Finally, I am a Windows user, but only because again, most of the software out there is for Windows and I unfortunately don't have the time to learn on Linux. Will I have a Mac laptop when I can have a desktop and laptop, heck yes! Oh, and btw, just saying because people want to steal something automatically makes it good means nothing. I've seen people steal 8 manila folders out of a box of 25 and leave the other 17. I've seen people steal a red and blue pen and leave the 2 black pens in a pack of 4. People are stupid when they try to steal things, just because people try to steal it doesn't make it automatically good.

In the end, Windows is good for customizing and building your own computer (a major plus) and for gaming and general computer usage. Macs are good for graphic editing and other multimedia functions. Different roles, with good results from both. Overall Macs tend to be simpler to operate, and if something is not working properly, there is an easy fix for it. In a Windows machine, there can be any number of issues causing the problem. Therefore, and finally, your argument that Windows is better because more people try to pirate it is hearby nullified.
 
Chris Chan said:
On all the prebuilt Windoze PCs I've set up, there has been adware pre-installed. You have to go download Spybot-S&D and Ad-aware, probably also AVG Free and Zonealarm if not preinstalled.
Where the hell do you buy your PC's from? sometimes prebuilt ones have edra "helper" aplications, that you ussaly dont want, but thats why you DONT buy prebuilt.....
 
Xycron said:
Where the hell do you buy your PC's from? sometimes prebuilt ones have edra "helper" aplications, that you ussaly dont want, but thats why you DONT buy prebuilt.....

A lot of manufactured computers come with programs from companies that pay to have their software installed on the computer upon shipment. This helps to make the packaged computer cheaper for the customer because it is more or less ad space that they are paying for.

And yeah, those applications can be rather annoying, but they're relatively easily removed, and this is another reason why Apples are a little more expensive. They don't have these programs helping to pay for some of the cost of the computer...
 
dciscouts said:
A lot of manufactured computers come with programs from companies that pay to have their software installed on the computer upon shipment. This helps to make the packaged computer cheaper for the customer because it is more or less ad space that they are paying for.

And yeah, those applications can be rather annoying, but they're relatively easily removed, and this is another reason why Apples are a little more expensive. They don't have these programs helping to pay for some of the cost of the computer...
Yeah i know, but ussaly its not Adware or Spyware, but its just annoying programs.....USsaly at least because it could ruin a comp's rep'.
 
well, my 2 y/o Dell had Myway etc preinstalled, and Spyot-S&D identified that as spyware, which I promptly removed. Myway hijacked Google, Yahoo, and MSN Search pages.
 
two 4800X2's are just about untouchable
Sure they are.
1. dual G5s exist
2. Dual X2-4800s do not.
So what do we have?
1. Performance
2. No performance.

Okay, I was unbalanced. But Macs pwn Windows PCs in terms of useability and ‘plug and play-ness’. You take a Mac home, open the boxes, plug it in to power, plug the kbd and mouse, and it works. A Windoze PC (or anything non-Mac) you have to do loads more stuff to make it work
Possibly. But the cost of such feature is lack of flexibility. Apples are well known to have very limited customizability

it says 4800x2 he prabally ment a X2 4800, not two AMD X2 4800's
Lets hope so.

You're comparing pre-built Windows machines to a Mac. Whil hat makes sense, VERY few people here have pre-built systems.
Then again, why not? Mac's are prebuilt

Uses a registry. Wow, how frustratingly stupid when installing programs or trying to move them.
Would you rather have INI files for everything? For one or two things possibly but for the entire OS? That would be a bad idea. Not to mention it wouldnt be such a good idea for expansion type programs (i.e., no way expansion pack would know where the main app's INI is)

Integrated "helpful" features in SP2 BLOW CHUNKS OUT BOTH ENDS!!!
Yes but SP2's profile was probably directed at normal users rather than power users and for that profile it does a decent job

Where the hell do you buy your PC's from?

Most small stores, when you're buying a prebuilt box, dont install Compaq/Dell/HP/IBM software because well... they arent OEM boxes.
 
Praetor said:
Sure they are.
1. dual G5s exist
2. Dual X2-4800s do not.
So what do we have?
1. Performance
2. No performance.

forgot that there isnt dual socket 939 mobos.... i was thiking of 940.. but even then, you could get dual or even quad opteron dual cores... AND be able to overclock them, unlike a mac
 
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