Looks like Windows 7 beats 10...

Discussion in 'General Computer Chat' started by Agent Smith, Jan 10, 2017.

  1. Agent Smith

    Agent Smith Well-Known Member

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    in the patch department. And in other news. Android is FUBAR.

    https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/android-was-2016s-most-vulnerable-product/


     
  2. Cromewell

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    What does Windows 7 beats 10 in the patch department even mean? 7 has more patches? Or 10 does? Or 7's patches are released more frequently? Or something else entirely?

    Number of open vulnerabilities isn't necessarily a good measure of security. The severity makes a huge difference. I'm not saying android or anything else don't have problems, but just counting open bugs isn't the full story.
     
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  3. Calin

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    Does this even matter? 10 is superior in my opinion because it supports DX12.
     
  4. beers

    beers Moderator Staff Member

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    Face desk
     
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  5. Geoff

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    Android is great if you get a high end phone which gets monthly or quarterly security updates, and has a more recent version of the Android OS. Cheap budget phones typically run an OS that is several versions behind, and never receives security updates.
     
  6. Darren

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  7. Origin Saint

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    NSFW
    (1:28 for the punchline)
     
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  8. Agent Smith

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    Unreal. You can't fix stupid alright. If the damn device/computer has patch vulnerabilities, how the hell is the user going to do anything about that? It's the same thing as a browser having patch vulnerabilities or Flash, Java, etc.

    There's a lot of fing stupid on this forum. I posted this same link on another forum and I got a waaay better discussion. Here it's like everyone saying, "oh no, it's perfectly fine. Win 10 is not missing patches and Android is not vulnerable."

    Pathetic!
     
  9. Intel_man

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    No one said that.
    Also no one said that.


    Since you're describing this forum as a whole and that you're part of this forum. Are you suggesting that you're fing stupid? If so, this might be the only thing I've ever nodded in agreement with you.
     
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  10. Intel_man

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    So because someone thinks that Fox News is not a reliable source for non-biased news reporting, they're automatically portrayed as a lefty?

    So you wanted discussion by having no one needing to say anything? Deep.
    Not really. Are you reading the same thread as everyone else?
    For the 3rd time, no one said that.
     
  11. ian

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    for samsung products, and other non nexus flagship phones, there is also a delay between android releases a security patch and then when a company like Samsung gets around to releasing the security patch for their phone. Then in some instances there is a third layer where it is dependant on the mobile phone carrier to release the update to the end user. Doesn't seem like an ideal situation to me, thats why going forward I would only consider a google pixel or iphone.
    Not to mention that those flagship android phone makers (google pixel excluded) are not transparent with how long they will provide security updates. That might be fine for people who change their phone every other month, but for people who keep their phone for a few years, that is another downside.
    I think equally important as the number of security vulnerabilities discovered, is the time that it has taken to push security fixes out to the end user.
     
  12. WhoX

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    I have a Galaxy Tab S LTE which was released to market in 2014. It didn't get Android v6 until a year after the release of Marshmallow, but it did eventually get it. Since then I have been getting security updates regularly for that version. For example, I received a 250 MB update yesterday.

    Even though the tablet is more than capable of running Android 7, I don't think Samsung is going to update it to that version.
     
  13. ian

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    Do you know when security updates will stop?
    With iOS if you get the latest version of iOS you are likely to get security updates for the life of that version.
     
  14. WhoX

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    Since the Tab S is a flagship device, I think they might continue Android 6 security updates for the foreseeable future. Samsung is frustratingly silent about support for older devices.
     
  15. ian

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    I don't think they have policies about supporting android 6
    Looking at the Samsung security website, they have only listed the Samsung tab s2 from 2015 as receiving quarterly updates, there is no mention of the tab s.
    security.samsungmobile.com/introsm.html
     
  16. Darren

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    I think you took what I said a little to literally. Of course an OS with better security is going to be more secure but making a broad assumption that 7 is better than 10 because of a security patch count is pretty pointless. Between the two they're going to be fairly similar with overall likelehood of getting infected/hacked/whatever is more dependent on the user than some arbitrary "patch" count.

    Also, chill out and stop trying to whip people into a political frenzy for the sake of petty insults. Nothing makes you dumber than a statements such as this. "But I get it, you're a leftest snowflakes that's butt hurt by Trump.". What the actual hell does that have to do with a conversation about OS security?
     
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  17. WhoX

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    This is what I mean about them being frustratingly silent about support for older devices. Official announcements are rare. But, as you can see below they are active with their updates. The update is from December 2016...just received it this week.

    [​IMG]
     
  18. Darren

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    I fully expect you not to lash out and act like a child just because somebody disagrees with you. If you want to contribute to this forum then some basic decency to others is fair to expected of you. :)
     
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  19. Punk

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    I'm going to cut the FoxNews off topic and put it in a separate thread. I'll also remove the insults so we can keep a civil discussion from now on.
     

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